Less pvp

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@PureFormAsh
i understand your approach and i am biased about that.
On the one hand i like this too sometimes. Just sail around, do this, do that and with recent updates we had there are also unwanted encounters that can make you having a hard day.
So i'm not against ist completely and sometimes also wish for it, expecially when soloing and the seas are full of harrasement and you are unable to just do some cargo's and immerse.
But on the other side, it can become boring very quick and it maybe would split the playerbase drastically.
SoT has no consensual PvP and this means, if you want to play SoT and agree to the PvEvP Mix you agree to be a target to those who focus on PvP.
You agree to be the sheep!
But unless in other games, you have a good chance to never meet aggresive pirates and you also have a good chance to avoid them or lets say to avoid any player encounter if you watch out and plan your route or react early enough to ships on the horizon.
But there is still a thread and the possibility to get caught, because you cannot have your eyes everywhere and all the time.

@dreadzepp sagte in Less pvp:

the problem as I see it is the attacker with a fresh ship has nothing to lose. In my opinion there has to be something you lose when you lose a ship besides loot/currency... like in your overall reputation or only being able to use larger ships by using a special currency. otherwise the attacker with an empty ship always has the upper hand because they have nothing to lose.

agree to that, but its a difficult thing to balance.
The attacker is allways in favor, because he usually has nothing to loot except some ressources.
So he wont loose anything, he attacks to get something and all he invests is some time.
So no matter what or how you do it. someone attacking another one of course has an advantage. He wouldnt attack if he has none or hoped for to have one.

We recently had a brigg attacking us at a fort for more than 10 times.
It was annoying becuse they didnt even fight, but only harassed us and alltime spawned just a few miles away. they were back in under 5 minutes, so we hardly fight the skeletons at the fort.
In the end we did it, but only because the ressources at the fort.
I'd like to have attackers allways spawn at the opposite end of the map. And there was a fix about that. If this happens to me, i allways loose 20 minutes to get back :P

@dreadzepp sagte in Less pvp:

@bugaboo-bill it is difficult, and I do not envy the people who have this job... but I do believe it is being worked on by someone, correct me if im wrong. ships cant stay free forever, they are free now for testing purposes... if not they are really passing up an opportunity to capitalize on how much people can "love" their ship, when it actually is worth something. and your ship having value will give you a more satisfying experience as an attacker as well, I am sure of this.

True, imagine it would cost something or you need to have a full customized ship and if it sinks hull, sails, figurehead, capstan, wheel and cannon cosmetics were gone ^^.
But this wont balance anything, because some are incerdibly rich.
I for myself am a Millionair, although i'm still no PL, but i just didnt care about that and often played very ineffective if it comes to "leveling", i just love progression in SoT is optional and in no way mandatory.

So hardcore gamers would be in an advante because of Millions of gold and because they usually can aquire more gold more quick.

I sometimes think that if you got sunk, you automatically should switch to another server.
This way you cannot fight back, but on the other hand you cannot get harrassed by the same people over and over.

@DreadZepp would destroy any balance and cater to hardcore gamers. therefore i disagree.
You cannot do something about that without to destroy balancing and the original philsophy of the game, were progression is optional and everybody has the same strenght regarding gamemechanics.
Play a longer session and you are already stronger due to ccb's you can find. It shouln't be more or the hardcore gamers will take over everything. And then the game dies, because these are allways not satisified and jut work the game off and faster than any developer can produce content or new mechanics.

With Arena i think we will see all hardcore PvPers only play arena, one or another will try to grief some PvE players, but because it can be very time consuming and less rewarding i think most pvp focussed players will only play Arena and the Adventure mode will become something like an inofficial PvE Server were PvP will happen very much less, but still happen at Forts or because they also add some PvP incentives for Adventure mode, who knows.

@dreadzepp sagte in Less pvp:

@bugaboo-bill the problem with not catering to hardcore gamers is they will be the only ones left still playing this game and purchasing anything, in the long run

I disagree on that!
My first computer game i bought in 1985 and i see that streamers and hardcore gamers are somwhat important, but more they are just loud and exagerating about almost everything.

imo the "normal" players and casuals are the far more bigger audience what does not use any forums or watching streams.
I played with a lot of players who dont read forums or watch streamers, i also dont watch streamers, never did, in no way interested :P
But i read forums and i also often partake and share my opinion or discuss.

edit most players i/ we meet arent hardcore gamers for sure, we allways check their stats and think over what to do, attack, flee, leave them alone and dont estroy their first adventures or whatever :)

Most people are normal playing and not exagerating like playing 10+ hours, min maing everything imho

@vorondil1 they never said something about private servers, thats what some people want to hear. What he was actually talking about was the option to join friends on a seperate ship on the same server (so you can have more thrustworthy alliences for instance, or a shoot of between palls)

Private servers have never been acknowledged by rare.

@dreadzepp sagte in Less pvp:

@Bugaboo-Bill it's nothing personal, it's just a strategy I think would succeed in creating a lucrative market feeding off hardcore competitive gamers, which personally I think is a market you are severely underestimating for its profit potential. the reality though is that Rare would probably love to have access to that kind of revenue stream, but they are well aware that their game in it's current is in no way e-sports ready

I think even Arena wont cater to hardcore or e-sports if i see what they are testing imho it's about more fun, but not serious competition stuff.
But i may be wrong about that.

They can do it with Arena and. Ore modes. There are also tons of pve coop only lovers what would buy all extra cosmetics and stuff to shine in coop.
So this audience is maybe also very strong to get money from.
Same for the 0815 normal and casual gamer. Less time, but more money like the generous family father.

Hardcore players are important because the are loud and exagerating and able to start a shitstorm.
Until at least in this forum ans community there are lots of for fun players and like ambitious casual players like myself what defend rares initial philosophy and how they developed the game.
And until they (Rare) did very well.
Future plans are amazing.
Latest Pioneer build, Arena, announced features with more pve story quests, fishing etc...

Hardcore do one big mistake, they insult casuals and noobs all the time, they are splitten, they are elitist and ostracizing a lot.
And they are hardly to satisfy if ever possible, because many of them are addicts and compensating while gaming.
Therefore The are so loud and often emotionally, super upset, ranting etc.
The normal player would think what the heck and quit the game.
If the game is done right and gameplay is fun, and thats personal taste, even repetetive gameplay can be fun, i mean all gameplay is somehow repetetive, but taste are different, then there will allways be enough players.

I am doing that mostly, sailing alone on a sloop. nobody is attacking me.
Then again I have a friend who has the most miserable time alone.

Few tips that I think make a difference:

• be careful, but not fearful. Seemingly bloodthirsty players can smell fear;
• Cash in often, with alot of loot you will act differently, most players can tell when you have something to hide and will chase you;
• avoid galleons if you can, if not sail into the wind;
• talk, be ready to play stupid if need be, but be friendly;
• And if being shot at, fight back fiercly, but avoid boarding at all costs and protect your latters;
• Sometimes preemtive attacks can be a good thing;
• Insurance is in kegs. collect as many as you can;
• be prepared to sacrifice all;
• Plan you actions when escaping and attacking and you will win even big crews.

few trips and tricks.