@callmebackdraft said in Regarding SOT Anti-Cheat:
@wolfmanbush said in Regarding SOT Anti-Cheat:
The issue with the approach of people pushing the mass cheating opinion is that they don't counter specific and valid points they just repeat "google...youtube" and then make arguments against points that were never made.
We can use me an example. I always make a significant amount of specific points. Those specific points are rarely countered and often times are even acknowledged as accurate or within reason but it goes right back personal stuff and arguing that cheating exists, something nobody, including me, denies.
If you lost respect for someone making substantive posts with reasonable views based on significant experience over disagreement then it's unlikely that your respect was based on the person and was more about agreeing with the opinions of that person.
Wolf, you should know me quite well and you know that i have always been on the skeptical side when it comes to hackusations in this game, and my skeptical side still is present for alot of the accusations i mean i still get hackusated alot for my cannon aim. however it is become painfully clear that something really needs to be done.
i am not talking about content creators making claims of cheating however i am talking about content being released almost day after day now that shows blatant cheating:
- Using shipwright repair at any given time to fix any given ship
- Using Immortality (obtained from leaving the ferry without using the door) to completely lock down a ship, steal all supplies or even flip ships and send them flying
- Using speedhacks to basicly fly trough the air and drop kegs off or simply shoot players or get easy boards
- Shooting players consistently when they are deep underwater far away from the enemy (not talking about the occasional lucky hit but consistant aim
and there are more examples of stuff like this and there is multiple people sharing evidence of this:
- Beardageddon
- LDSylvr
- BoxyFresh
- Cpt Donut
- Theb
- Awecoop
- Blurbs
- Mixelplx
and probably more, the thing is, there is a rule on these forums in which you cant share any of that content that shows this cheating because it can and will get you stricken down because of inciting witch hunts and/or just advertising cheats.
it used to be that we would get links to vids every so often taken from the cheaters perspective which where advertisements to their specific software of choice however with season 8 some have become so blatant with it because they get away with it, time and time again. new account, new gamepass and hey presto sailing again.
And the style of cheats also has become more obvious because they simply dont care about their punnishment, i mean using player models to sent ships into the stratosphere is rather obvious, as is a mast that is down and just plinks back up straight again in a split second.
Any proof there is, isnt allowed to be shared on these here forums and i partially understand it, however it has really become clear to me that whatever cheat detection they have currently just isnt cutting it. because they are clearly not checking for some basic stuff:
- Player movement at extreme speeds, hights and angles
- Player immortality only being active in a small radius around the ferry
- Abnormal ship movement (ships getting Space X'd)
just to name a few.
can all cheats be countered 100% of the time... no, it will always be an ongoing battle between game devs and cheat devs, however i think in the current state it is very fair to call out to Rare and Microsoft to be doing more.
- Hardware Id bans
- VAC Bans
- EAC
This doesn't really conflict much with what I post though.
I pretty much acknowledge everything people say other than sus accusations and that it is wide spread within the entire game.
My main goal on these topics is to bring some calm to the storm, it may not feel that way because people do get pretty fired up about my posts but my posts are pretty chill and focused, I avoid zingers and gotcha stuff and I don't make personal attacks. I often feel like someone should counter the escalation and try to offer some sort of reasonable consistency while people are getting more and more frustrated. I don't think it matters much on this topic, I think this one is gonna run its course and there isn't much I can do about it, but I try because it's better than not trying. Probably not much else I can contribute on it more than I already have. I think I just gotta wait for the dust to settle going forward.