NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone

  • Sea of Thieves Inn-Side Story #27: Solo Play

    Joe Neate (Producer) said: "We'll be looking at bringing in different ship types...We'll be looking at what advantages or strategic disadvantages this is going to bring in."

    FOCUS POINTS

    Andrew Preston (Senior Designer) said: "When you select a small ship, you're not selecting a different game mode..."

    Shelley Preston (Senior Designer) said: "It would be incredibly tough to take on something like a Skeleton Fort in a small ship...That's something you probably want to do with a crew on a Galleon."

    Andrew Preston (Senior Designer) said: "[On a Sloop] You might have to be a lot more cautious and stealthy on the ocean."

    Shelley Preston (Senior Designer) said: "If you want to go out there on a small ship and attack all the Galleons, that's entirely up to you."

    Shelley Preston (Senior Designer) said: "[On a Sloop] The sense of achievement is really high, but the difficulty is high as well."

    Shelley Preston (Senior Designer) said: "It's about finding the play style and ship size that suits you best."

    CONCLUSIONS

    • Ships are not designed to be equal.
    • Solo servers are not a consideration.
    • Playing solo is expected to be harder.
    • Harder quests are less likely to be completed if you're playing solo.
    • Deciding between Sloop or Galleon is up to you, not based on fairness or equality.
    • Fighting a Galleon with a Sloop is considered "optional".
    • Don't expect PvE only servers.
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  • Kinda sad they have to state the obvious....

  • How many PVE/Sloop only/ offline game mode/ sloop too hard/ quests too long posts will we STILL get today though?

  • How many posts out there complaining about fairness when it was never designed to be that way?

  • Thanks @Admiral-Tweedle for this top-notch analysis. Players are in total control of the choices they want to make.

  • Now, Rare, fire whoever on your team pushed for four player sloops instead of actually doing some work to fix the lobby system.

    Just kidding.

    (No I'm not)

    Edit: This is, indeed, a joke.
    Double Edit: This is more or less swipe at the design team for not understanding the balance of their own game... to ever have considered something like a four person sloop in the game as it stands today is absolutely insane and balance breaking.

    Glad to know the nail is in the coffin on this one... at least for now, anyway.

  • @wkd1337 said: "Now, Rare, fire whoever on your team pushed for four player sloops..."

    Mike Chapman said: "One player could now sail a four-person galleon alone, using the game's "Make Friends" emote to manually gather a crew. On the other hand, four people could use one small sloop - Chapman explains that this could even be used as a surprise attack tactic."

    Good luck with that.

  • @admiral-tweedle people cry unfair until they have the upper hand and are peppering a ship with cannonballs and destroying someone....then it's ok.

  • @admiral-tweedle said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said: "Now, Rare, fire whoever on your team pushed for four player sloops..."

    Mike Chapman said: "One player could now sail a four-person galleon alone, using the game's "Make Friends" emote to manually gather a crew. On the other hand, four people could use one small sloop - Chapman explains that this could even be used as a surprise attack tactic."

    Good luck with that.

    Fire him...

    ...

    Out of a cannon?

  • @gloog said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @admiral-tweedle said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said: "Now, Rare, fire whoever on your team pushed for four player sloops..."

    Mike Chapman said: "One player could now sail a four-person galleon alone, using the game's "Make Friends" emote to manually gather a crew. On the other hand, four people could use one small sloop - Chapman explains that this could even be used as a surprise attack tactic."

    Good luck with that.

    Fire him...

    ...

    Out of a cannon?

    Clearly this is what I meant.

    😏

  • What I learned, 1 has less of a numerical value than the number 4.

  • CONCLUSIONS

    Ships are not designed to be equal.
    Solo servers are not a consideration.
    Playing solo is expected to be harder.
    Harder quests are less likely to be completed if you're playing solo.
    Deciding between Sloop or Galleon is up to you, not based on fairness or equality.
    Fighting a Galleon with a Sloop is considered "optional".
    Don't expect PvE only servers.

    Wow. That reads like it was thrown down like a pair of stone tablets.

    My impressions:

    Not sure I've ever heard or seen of anyone demanding that all ships be equal. This seems self evident and when the devs are talking about sloops here it's simply pro/con.

    I've not seen an argument for solo servers before, and I don't recall the devs addressing the notion of it in this video but ok?

    Maybe some people aren't expecting it be harder to play solo but yeah it is. My observation is that if people are perceived to be complaining about solo being too hard they are more arguing about it being viable - which this video goes to lengths to defend as an idea?

    I feel like it's obvious to most that things like Skull Forts are extremely hard to do solo. I assume that's what's being inferred here when talking about "harder quests being harder"? Again maybe I've got blinders on but I haven't seen a lot of complaining about this as most everything else is just about time/division of labor.

    Deciding between ships is up to you....also is this a debated item? I'm still missing the camp that is crying for or demanding that a single sloop to be able to stand toe to toe with a Galleon...That said I think most of know it can be done if you make the choice.

    I never heard them say anything about expecting or not expecting PVE servers. They talked about incenting community and interaction of course but it's editorializing to assume that means status quo forever, or that something more PVE oriented can't also facilitate this.

  • @merlin-mav-k said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    CONCLUSIONS

    Ships are not designed to be equal.
    Solo servers are not a consideration.
    Playing solo is expected to be harder.
    Harder quests are less likely to be completed if you're playing solo.
    Deciding between Sloop or Galleon is up to you, not based on fairness or equality.
    Fighting a Galleon with a Sloop is considered "optional".
    Don't expect PvE only servers.

    Wow. That reads like it was thrown down like a pair of stone tablets.

    My impressions:

    Not sure I've ever heard or seen of anyone demanding that all ships be equal. This seems self evident and when the devs are talking about sloops here it's simply pro/con.

    I've not seen an argument for solo servers before, and I don't recall the devs addressing the notion of it in this video but ok?

    Maybe some people aren't expecting it be harder to play solo but yeah it is. My observation is that if people are perceived to be complaining about solo being too hard they are more arguing about it being viable - which this video goes to lengths to defend as an idea?

    I feel like it's obvious to most that things like Skull Forts are extremely hard to do solo. I assume that's what's being inferred here when talking about "harder quests being harder"? Again maybe I've got blinders on but I haven't seen a lot of complaining about this as most everything else is just about time/division of labor.

    Deciding between ships is up to you....also is this a debated item? I'm still missing the camp that is crying for or demanding that a single sloop to be able to stand toe to toe with a Galleon...That said I think most of know it can be done if you make the choice.

    I never heard them say anything about expecting or not expecting PVE servers. They talked about incenting community and interaction of course but it's editorializing to assume that means status quo forever, or that something more PVE oriented can't also facilitate this.

    What's happened is Solo and even Duo players have complained through the roof of getting ambushed by a Galleon while anchored, getting sunk and getting their loot stolen.

    That, or they were ambushed on the high seas, and they weren't watching the horizon. Probably had all of their lanterns on, too.

    Those players want sloop-only or solo-only servers so they can run merchant missions without losing time thanks to a galleon crew attacking them, searching for chests or skulls (which are far more valuable than animals, since animals are only worthwhile when you're on voyages).

  • @merlin-mav-k where you been dawg?

  • CONCLUSIONS

    Ships are not designed to be equal.
    "Solo servers are not a consideration.
    Playing solo is expected to be harder.
    Harder quests are less likely to be completed if you're playing solo.
    Deciding between Sloop or Galleon is up to you, not based on fairness or equality.
    Fighting a Galleon with a Sloop is considered "optional".
    Don't expect PvE only servers."

    x 1 gazillion.

    It was never meant to be fair. 4 man Galleon is the meta. Everything else = you take your chances. Deal with it.
    And I say this as a solo sloop player. Sailing solo is the most exciting and rewarding thing to do in this game. You know you aren't being carried. You know you can survive alone out there. Sinking ships with 2-4 people on them is the best. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    Now, Rare, fire whoever on your team pushed for four player sloops instead of actually doing some work to fix the lobby system.

    Just kidding.

    (No I'm not)

    Edit: This is, indeed, a joke.
    Double Edit: This is more or less swipe at the design team for not understanding the balance of their own game... to ever have considered something like a four person sloop in the game as it stands today is absolutely insane and balance breaking.

    Glad to know the nail is in the coffin on this one... at least for now, anyway.

    I still want 4 man sloops. I like playing with friends. I don't like sailing big bulky ships that take 30 minutes just to unanchor. Idk how it destroys the balance.

  • @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    Now, Rare, fire whoever on your team pushed for four player sloops instead of actually doing some work to fix the lobby system.

    Just kidding.

    (No I'm not)

    Edit: This is, indeed, a joke.
    Double Edit: This is more or less swipe at the design team for not understanding the balance of their own game... to ever have considered something like a four person sloop in the game as it stands today is absolutely insane and balance breaking.

    Glad to know the nail is in the coffin on this one... at least for now, anyway.

    I still want 4 man sloops. I like playing with friends. I don't like sailing big bulky ships that take 30 minutes just to unanchor. Idk how it destroys the balance.

    Were I to have it my way, we'd all default to 4 player groups. Choosing only how many you prefer in your group, ship type be damned.

    Then, upon log-in, you'd choose from an assortment of vessels.

    Want a solo galleon? Go for it, chances are if you play long enough you'll end up with a team of 3 afk'ers anyhow.

    Want a 4 man sloop? Sounds fun! Less armament, less of a damage threshold, but alot more maneuverable and hey, face to face boarders will get a nasty surprise!

    Adding in other ship types would only compliment the variety, I'm sure.

    Point is, I think it would be fun to presume nothing about a teams size or capability based only on the vessel.

    As it sits it is quite possible now to encounter all of the above. I have partied with opposing crews already in game. I've sailed on servers with 3 sloops supporting a full galleon. How many were on each varied ship was much different than one might presume. I started as a solo sloop, one of the galleon mates joined my ship to help out and balance the ship 'teams' we had.

    It can indeed happen already. I'd just like to see it officially applied in game. Sure, it'll mess with perceptions of balance. But how much 'balance' in this game really exists as is anyhow?

    Edit to add

    I also feel it would be keen to create an outpost NPC who would allow players to dock, and change which ship they were using dynamically.

    I also feel ships should be named - and if they are sunk - the name should be displayed as islands are currently (Though perhaps less dynamic in appearance)

  • Reading what some of you want is scary. I don't know if I should just stop playing SoT now or wait it out. Because if half of the bs you people want is added it won't be the same game I bought. Sorry but 4 man sloops are dumb and unbalanced. Why did any of you buy this game when you knew:

    It was a PvEPvP game?
    Don't wanna do 4 mans on gally but want it on sloops?
    Want PvE only servers?
    Want private servers?
    Hate being sunk and killed?

    What game did you people think you were buying? Its clear a bunch of you did zero research and that my friends is on you!

    Stop trying to turn this game into things it's not or that would break it. Basically stop being complete idiots.

  • @iduskk the only way to make a 4 player sloop balanced is to make it even more fragile and take water faster (especially on the "mid deck" of the sloop).

    One cannon shot into a sloop should do 2-3 holes. And it should take water at least twice as fast as it does now. Only then would a four player sloop be balanced with a Galleon.

  • @themustamissed said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    Reading what some of you want is scary. I don't know if I should just stop playing SoT now or wait it out. Because if half of the bs you people want is added it won't be the same game I bought. Sorry but 4 man sloops are dumb and unbalanced. Why did any of you buy this game when you knew:

    It was a PvEPvP game?
    Don't wanna do 4 mans on gally but want it on sloops?
    Want PvE only servers?
    Want private servers?
    Hate being sunk and killed?

    What game did you people think you were buying? Its clear a bunch of you did zero research and that my friends is on you!

    Stop trying to turn this game into things it's not or that would break it. Basically stop being complete idiots.

    I still don't see how a 4 man sloop is not balanced. Sounds to me like you're just afraid you can't confidently attack smaller crews.

    As to answer your question of why, for me at least I enjoy sailing with 4 people. That's when I have the most fun. But I despise sailing galleons. They're big. Slow, require a coordinated effort to sail which means we cant just mess around while sailing, or play with inexperienced friends, they take forever to unanchor, and ships tend to avoid you in a galleon. Sloops are more fun to sail because they're more agile, less effort to sail, and everyone attacks sloops thinking they're easy targets which means more PvP which is what I enjoy most. That's why I like 4 man sloops. I just don't see the imbalance.

  • @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk the only way to make a 4 player sloop balanced is to make it even more fragile and take water faster (especially on the "mid deck" of the sloop).

    One cannon shot into a sloop should do 2-3 holes. And it should take water at least twice as fast as it does now. Only then would a four player sloop be balanced with a Galleon.

    On what planet does one cannon shot make multiple holes?

    Why do the sloops need to be weaker with 4 people? With that logic why are galleons so durable?

    Having 2 extra people doesn't change the ship itself. Why does the sloop all of the sudden become imbalanced because it has 2 more people?

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    I didn't say galleons are too hard to sail, I said they're more annoying and take more effort. I like sloops more because I can spend more time messing around and having fun and less time adjusting sails and raising anchors. I can sail galleons just fine, but given the choice I would take a sloop because the playstyle is more enjoyable.

    You can sit in your galleon where it's nice and safe. I'll just sail circles around you in my sloop, sinking you and playing my hurdy gurdy while your ship goes down.

  • @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    I didn't say galleons are too hard to sail, I said they're more annoying and take more effort. I like sloops more because I can spend more time messing around and having fun and less time adjusting sails and raising anchors. I can sail galleons just fine, but given the choice I would take a sloop because the playstyle is more enjoyable.

    You can sit in your galleon where it's nice and safe. I'll just sail circles around you in my sloop, sinking you and playing my hurdy gurdy while your ship goes down.

    I never get sunk but sloops. You lot are annoying though. Sometimes you make me waste time chasing you and killing you. That's what I like to call "sloop terrorism".

    Also, you just said "I didnt say Galleons are harder..." and then you listed reasons why they are harder to sail and that you like sloops because they are easier to sail.

    You really are a thick one, eh?

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

    You still haven't actually argued anything. You're just too upset because you like attacking sloops, and the thought of taking a 4v4 instead of a 4v2 scares you. Done arguing with you, see you on the seas. I'll be the sloop sinking you while you cry hacks on the forums about it. 🤣

  • @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

    You still haven't actually argued anything. You're just too upset because you like attacking sloops, and the thought of taking a 4v4 instead of a 4v2 scares you. Done arguing with you, see you on the seas. I'll be the sloop sinking you while you cry hacks on the forums about it. 🤣

    I've been the victor of a five Galleon FFA... 20 people all battling for a Skullfort... I wouldn't expect you to understand, this is how a real pirate sails the Sea of Thieves. 4v4 is nothing, that is the norm... sometimes I 1v3, 1v4... 1v2 your annoying sloop? Not even worth my time. Let the sloop circle and annoy us like a mosquito... we just ignore you until you fly a little too close... and then it's all over for you.

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    I didn't say galleons are too hard to sail, I said they're more annoying and take more effort. I like sloops more because I can spend more time messing around and having fun and less time adjusting sails and raising anchors. I can sail galleons just fine, but given the choice I would take a sloop because the playstyle is more enjoyable.

    You can sit in your galleon where it's nice and safe. I'll just sail circles around you in my sloop, sinking you and playing my hurdy gurdy while your ship goes down.

    I never get sunk but sloops. You lot are annoying though. Sometimes you make me waste time chasing you and killing you. That's what I like to call "sloop terrorism".

    Also, you just said "I didnt say Galleons are harder..." and then you listed reasons why they are harder to sail and that you like sloops because they are easier to sail.

    You really are a thick one, eh?

    More effort does not mean more challenging. There is nothing challenging about turning 3 sails opposed to turning one. It just takes more time and effort. The reward is you get a bigger and safer ship, but I'll gladly give that up for a smaller more agile ship because that's more fun.

    I also like you admitted you like chasing down sloops because it's easy. Proved my argument right there. You just don't want a 4v4. Fight.

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

    You still haven't actually argued anything. You're just too upset because you like attacking sloops, and the thought of taking a 4v4 instead of a 4v2 scares you. Done arguing with you, see you on the seas. I'll be the sloop sinking you while you cry hacks on the forums about it. 🤣

    I've been the victor of a five Galleon FFA... 20 people all battling for a Skullfort... I wouldn't expect you to understand, this is how a real pirate sails the Sea of Thieves. 4v4 is nothing, that is the norm... sometimes I 1v3, 1v4... 1v2 your annoying sloop? Not even worth my time. Let the sloop circle and annoy us like a mosquito... we just ignore you until you fly a little too close... and then it's all over for you.

    So of 4v4 is the norm, why are you so afraid to fight a 4 man sloop? 🤔

    Also you say sloops aren't worth your time, but you also say you chase sloops and call it "sloop terrorism" which is it?

  • @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    I didn't say galleons are too hard to sail, I said they're more annoying and take more effort. I like sloops more because I can spend more time messing around and having fun and less time adjusting sails and raising anchors. I can sail galleons just fine, but given the choice I would take a sloop because the playstyle is more enjoyable.

    You can sit in your galleon where it's nice and safe. I'll just sail circles around you in my sloop, sinking you and playing my hurdy gurdy while your ship goes down.

    I never get sunk but sloops. You lot are annoying though. Sometimes you make me waste time chasing you and killing you. That's what I like to call "sloop terrorism".

    Also, you just said "I didnt say Galleons are harder..." and then you listed reasons why they are harder to sail and that you like sloops because they are easier to sail.

    You really are a thick one, eh?

    More effort does not mean more challenging. There is nothing challenging about turning 3 sails opposed to turning one. It just takes more time and effort. The reward is you get a bigger and safer ship, but I'll gladly give that up for a smaller more agile ship because that's more fun.

    I also like you admitted you like chasing down sloops because it's easy. Proved my argument right there. You just don't want a 4v4. Fight.

    You really do have a reading comprehension problem dont you? Let's try bullet points.

    -A galleon is harder to sail and requires more hands to operate. Party size 4.
    -A sloop is easier to sail and can be manned optimally by a single person. Party size 2.

    This is called balance.

    -I have fought in and won larger battles than you've ever experienced. I love large scale PvP in this game, and I embrace it.
    -I only chase down and destroy sloops that attack my Galleon. We always win. I never bully sloops, and prefer fights with other Galleons.
    -Your reading comprehension is poor, and your logic is lacking.

  • @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

    You still haven't actually argued anything. You're just too upset because you like attacking sloops, and the thought of taking a 4v4 instead of a 4v2 scares you. Done arguing with you, see you on the seas. I'll be the sloop sinking you while you cry hacks on the forums about it. 🤣

    I've been the victor of a five Galleon FFA... 20 people all battling for a Skullfort... I wouldn't expect you to understand, this is how a real pirate sails the Sea of Thieves. 4v4 is nothing, that is the norm... sometimes I 1v3, 1v4... 1v2 your annoying sloop? Not even worth my time. Let the sloop circle and annoy us like a mosquito... we just ignore you until you fly a little too close... and then it's all over for you.

    So of 4v4 is the norm, why are you so afraid to fight a 4 man sloop? 🤔

    Also you say sloops aren't worth your time, but you also say you chase sloops and call it "sloop terrorism" which is it?

    Because it's imbalanced, you empty crate of bananas.

  • @iduskk @nyadc85 said in 4 man Sloop crew confirmed by Joe Neate:

    This is a terrible idea and I can easily rationalize that with a single sentence.

    You can have manned cannons, sails, steering and repairs all happening at once with no need to ever deviate. This would make sinking and taking down a Sloop literally impossible.

    This is a terrible solution to something never asked for.

    This is a very reasonable and logical reason why 4 man sloops is unbalanced

  • @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

    You still haven't actually argued anything. You're just too upset because you like attacking sloops, and the thought of taking a 4v4 instead of a 4v2 scares you. Done arguing with you, see you on the seas. I'll be the sloop sinking you while you cry hacks on the forums about it. 🤣

    I've been the victor of a five Galleon FFA... 20 people all battling for a Skullfort... I wouldn't expect you to understand, this is how a real pirate sails the Sea of Thieves. 4v4 is nothing, that is the norm... sometimes I 1v3, 1v4... 1v2 your annoying sloop? Not even worth my time. Let the sloop circle and annoy us like a mosquito... we just ignore you until you fly a little too close... and then it's all over for you.

    So of 4v4 is the norm, why are you so afraid to fight a 4 man sloop? 🤔

    Also you say sloops aren't worth your time, but you also say you chase sloops and call it "sloop terrorism" which is it?

    Because it's imbalanced, you empty crate of bananas.

    You have yet to explain why it's imbalanced. All your doing is crying because you don't wanna fight a 4v4. You talk a big game, but if you are afraid of a sloop because it's got 2 extra hands, I can't believe you've ever won a fight in this game.

  • @ramb0zld said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk @nyadc85 said in 4 man Sloop crew confirmed by Joe Neate:

    This is a terrible idea and I can easily rationalize that with a single sentence.

    You can have manned cannons, sails, steering and repairs all happening at once with no need to ever deviate. This would make sinking and taking down a Sloop literally impossible.

    This is a terrible solution to something never asked for.

    This is a very reasonable and logical reason why 4 man sloops is unbalanced

    Thank you. This is an actual argument.

    I still disagree with it though. If you want to sink a ship, you have to kill the players first. You aren't going to sink a galleon with 4 people alive repairing, sailing, and shooting cannons. So why would a sloop be different? The sloop still takes on water quicker, and only has the one cannon on either side. So it's not like the sloop has an advantage over the galleon.

  • @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @wkd1337 said in NEW VIDEO: Joe Neate focuses on the Sloop, solo play, and the perils of going it alone:

    @iduskk Wow iduskk states "Galleons are too hard to sail because I'm a whiney/lazy newb" he then goes on to list a bunch of things that make the Galleon harder to sail than a sloop.

    And then he goes "I dont understand how a 4 man sloop would be imbalanced it would just be easier"

    L**o if this guy isn't trolling I dont understand how he puts on pants in the morning and makes it out his front door.

    @iDuskk read your own post. You yourself have already listed reasons as to why it would not be balanced. You are just too lazy to play the game right.

    You still haven't actually argued anything. You're just too upset because you like attacking sloops, and the thought of taking a 4v4 instead of a 4v2 scares you. Done arguing with you, see you on the seas. I'll be the sloop sinking you while you cry hacks on the forums about it. 🤣

    I've been the victor of a five Galleon FFA... 20 people all battling for a Skullfort... I wouldn't expect you to understand, this is how a real pirate sails the Sea of Thieves. 4v4 is nothing, that is the norm... sometimes I 1v3, 1v4... 1v2 your annoying sloop? Not even worth my time. Let the sloop circle and annoy us like a mosquito... we just ignore you until you fly a little too close... and then it's all over for you.

    So of 4v4 is the norm, why are you so afraid to fight a 4 man sloop? 🤔

    Also you say sloops aren't worth your time, but you also say you chase sloops and call it "sloop terrorism" which is it?

    Because it's imbalanced, you empty crate of bananas.

    You have yet to explain why it's imbalanced. All your doing is crying because you don't wanna fight a 4v4. You talk a big game, but if you are afraid of a sloop because it's got 2 extra hands, I can't believe you've ever won a fight in this game.

    Here you go @iDuskk apparently you dont know how to keep up with the debate so I'm gonna go ahead and copy paste this for you... feel free to scroll up and actually read the logic as to why sloops are not balanced... not that I think logic has much effect on you:

    You really do have a reading comprehension problem dont you? Let's try bullet points.

    -A galleon is harder to sail and requires more hands to operate. Party size 4.
    -A sloop is easier to sail and can be manned optimally by a single person. Party size 2.

    This is called balance.

    -I have fought in and won larger battles than you've ever experienced. I love large scale PvP in this game, and I embrace it.
    -I only chase down and destroy sloops that attack my Galleon. We always win. I never bully sloops, and prefer fights with other Galleons.
    -Your reading comprehension is poor, and your logic is lacking.

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