The grapple gun sucks

The grapple gun having such short range and limited ammo kills it as a mobility tool

Range is meh but it’s not meant to kill. It’s a traveling tool.

it should have INFINITE ammo

So everyone will be like Spider-Man. Just zipping around like monkeys and swinging around. Yeah no. Plan your shots and use them wisely.

The tool itself is already completely unusable in a pvp setting.

Helps with stealing kegs from players. Traveling across galleon ships. Board ships easier. If you use your head you can come up with clever tactics.

sword lunge is better for mobility, and its good for pvp as well as pve. Its easy to do, you can do it unlimited times

Besides the “miss” and exhaustion effect that leaves you vulnerable. Yeah sure.

but it gets 99% outclassed by the cutlass

Cutlass can’t be used in the water or even under it. Can’t climb up hills, send your flying higher into the sky after a cannon shot.

I like it and its not as bad as you claim but some changes that could be good. All or mix and match.

1. if you miss your shot you can reel in your line by hitting right attack button, it takes 2x longer than standard reload. No loss of ammo occurs.

1a) Or after every fire you can choose to reel in or hit fire again to disengage and use a reload.

2. add in an audio cue for things being in range.

3. bring back deak shots on all ships. Make it hard to pull off but doable.

4. If you hold the fire button down you don`t disingage after zipping to the end of the line on a successful hit. This way you can hit the side of a ship and get carried along with them waiting the ship to stop at an island or be anchored. Or you can zip up onto a cliff edge, cave roof or other feature and wait for another pirate to walk under you. Then death from above.

5. in the water, when zipping along, if you hit fire again BEFORE reaching the end you get the sword lunge boost. So now if you hit behind the ladder of a moving ship, a well timed click may get you a board.

The grapple gun has alot of promise for extra features and providing it takes a weapon slot its fair.

The blow-dart gun isn't that great either....

@primalz8314 said in The grapple gun sucks:

@smuntface i don't see how. Sure maybe the double range was a bit much. But the infinite ammo is definitely warranted. You can't really use it on half the surfaces anyway.

Infinite ammo and being able to attach anywhere means your pirate getting to places that may not have been planned for.
They may not be fully rendered. It means finding glitches in the map and walking thru walls. It means considerably more work for the dev's to address.

Attaching anywhere also means boarding (which is already quite easy) becomes jokingly easy to anchor and sink, or steal from solo players. If you disagree, think about fighting as a solo against a large crew who spam-board you from the edge of cannon range.

Like you, I think the flying around in Batman games are fun, but SoT is a PvPvE game, so dealing with noobie players & small crew's has to be part of the conversation.

since its just a shell of it it could have been, I was wondering if they would entertain for selectable ammo like a blowgun, so instead of it being loaded with a harpoon some alternate ammo could be things like fireworks or flares, maybe more if someone has a good imagination. I'm thinking something like a launcher platform, more than just a grappler, I mean not exactly a M79 grenade launcher, but maybe yea something like that?