Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons

@king-mimikyu No. They would become too common, and the players who got them during the event won't be happy because everyone is using them.

The players who got them during the event got them through adventure and trials, but if they were added to stores, they would be bought with a small amount of gold.

@supersnipper60 yes, because it should be availible to everyone that plays just put it in the black market for dabloons, therefor its rarity is intact at least a little

@schwammlgott can you just let me offer my suggesion in peace...

@schwammlgott said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@king-mimikyu sagte in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 yes, because it should be availible to everyone that plays just put it in the black market for dabloons, therefor its rarity is intact at least a little

Guess how easy it is to get dabloons...I got about 7000...this won't be a rare thing then

These items were time limited and won't come back, I'm sorry for you, but that's a fact

This isnt true, Rare has retracted their "limited time" commitments before. I was using the Hungering Deep drum and the Devils Roar sword since they were released. Now they are collecting dust. I am not saying they should release these items again, imo they shouldn't. The Black Market was presented as a compromise, a recoloured option for players who missed out. Unfortunately Rare will likely release all of these items again and push away those who supported them in the early days.

@schwammlgott said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@omnipotence13 this was ONE EVENT where you were able to get ONE of those limited items, not more...
Because of the response I don't think there will be more of these items coming back

Time will tell. I find myself wondering with the new events if its worth the effort though, as I think its likely that we will see them all again.

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 yes, because it should be availible to everyone that plays just put it in the black market for dabloons, therefor its rarity is intact at least a little

Doubloons are super easy to get. The rarity would only last for minutes. Stop being entitled because you missed the event.

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@schwammlgott can you just let me offer my suggesion in peace...

You are posting in the Feedback and Suggestions forum. There will be people who will disagree with you. If you can't handle it, then leave please.

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 yes, because it should be availible to everyone that plays just put it in the black market for dabloons, therefor its rarity is intact at least a little

normally I would just say no and move on. what price do you think would be fair in doubloons?

I'm thinking 10000 for each.

@captain-coel said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 yes, because it should be availible to everyone that plays just put it in the black market for dabloons, therefor its rarity is intact at least a little

normally I would just say no and move on. what price do you think would be fair in doubloons?

I'm thinking 10000 for each.

I think it should be a massive amount, like 1 million doubloons

@supersnipper60 im feeling really attacked here, look its a suggestion area, not a bash your fellow pirate area. that being said, im not entitled. im saying this for me and my friends that would love that sword i may have missed the event but that doesnt mean i wouldnt suggest it if i did get it. Please dont assume

@captain-coel maybe at least 200-300 dabloons because of not all of us are veterens in this game and give newer players a chance since dabloons come in events, rare tresure, comidations or tall tales its not really that easy to me or other newer players

@king-mimikyu I stand with you my friend. I think that limiting this much content this way does more harm than anything. I would be really happy if they gave us another chance to get those items, there are a lot of unique looking sets (of which we can currently buy some later-released pieces, thus reinforcing the notion that they should be available to everyone who wants to complete the set) and items that feel locked away forever. Players who already had them lose nothing, players who get them will be really happy. And I don't think they would become "too common". If anything, some liveries like the Ashen Dragon one are too common because there aren't any good alternatives around, and the Forsaken Ashes set would be a nice one.
I'm not talking about commemorative cosmetics like the Day 1 patch, golden cannons, anniversary rifle, original PL sails and stuff like that; those truly have a unique meaning, and I would like those to stay exclusive to the people who got them at the time. I do not feel the same for the many time-limted cosmetics linked to previous expansion. Their omission just feels like a punishment for people who for whatever reason didn't have a chance to play back then.
Rather than having them back as common items, they could be locked behind an event or a commendation. I think that restricting content just to make a small portion of your players happy is just bad game design, even if it's only cosmetic. I can make an exception for those items that I mentioned earlier, but nothing more.

@king-mimikyu 200 to 300 doubloons is nothing. reapers cheats at grade 5 are worth 68. generous gifts are worth 25. it would need to be thousands to make it rare enough.

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 im feeling really attacked here, look its a suggestion area, not a bash your fellow pirate area. that being said, im not entitled. im saying this for me and my friends that would love that sword i may have missed the event but that doesnt mean i wouldnt suggest it if i did get it. Please dont assume

If you can't handle criticism then leave. The cosmetics were rewards for completing certain things during a set time limit. You missed the time limit, and so failed to unlock the cosmetics. Just because you want them doesn't mean you will get them. 200 doubloons is easily earned. I can earn that amount in under an hour. New players may not know about the cosmetics, as the cosmetics were locked away before the new players joined.

@BobbCane It doesn't do harm to lock away cosmetics. The players who got the cosmetics spent time and effort getting them, and new players (in a sense of after the event, not joining the community) joined too late to get them, or didn't do the event, or just didn't care. The Forsaken Ashes cosmetics are just like the Day 1 patch, golden cannons, anniversary rifle, and other locked cosmetics. They are all unique.

Say you had a special EoR designed just for you. You would use it. Now, say everyone got the same EoR designed just for you, and everyone used it. It wouldn't seem so special. That is how the players who have the cosmetics feel. They earned them because they did the event, and didn't shrug it off. If the cosmetics were put back out for sail, they wouldn't seem so special.

@supersnipper60 look i can handle opinions, just not assumptions you think im entitled because i want everyone to get something they was probably unable to get before? If you ask me thats the opposite of being entitled, i feel like everyone should deserve a chance at these items, old or new they all should at least get a fighting chance

@supersnipper60 P.S. did you notice i also said the figurehead first? I mean all devils roar items not just the sword.

@supersnipper60 I don't agree that event related items and stuff like the Day One Patch are in the same category. Also, I'm talking about items that are part of sets, most of them completed only after the items were made unavailable. The Bone Crusher livery fits in this category as well. What's the point of having cannons, capstan and wheel when you don't have the rest of the ship? The Fearless Bone Crusher doesn't count since it has a different colour scheme that doesn't mix well with the original. Also, you say you worked hard to get those items, and you don't like the idea of them being given out for free or for just a few doubloons: I perfectly agree, and that's why the requirements to get them should be similar to what they were at the time, if not slightly harder. They could be a reward for fully completing all the commendations for the update they were introduced in (example, Forsaken Ashes stuff = complete all Forsaken Shores commendations, then buy at the Shipwright) There could be a monthly rotation so that those items still feel limited and special, while giving new players the chance to complete those sets. You should cherish an item because it looks good to you, not because by chance you were able to obtain it and other people didn't, and there is such a massive amount of now unobtainable cosmetics that honestly is a total waste.

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 look i can handle opinions, just not assumptions you think im entitled because i want everyone to get something they was probably unable to get before? If you ask me thats the opposite of being entitled, i feel like everyone should deserve a chance at these items, old or new they all should at least get a fighting chance

They did have a chance, and they missed it.

@king-mimikyu said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 P.S. did you notice i also said the figurehead first? I mean all devils roar items not just the sword.

Yeah. You missed the chance to get those as well.

@bobbcane said in Forsaken ashes gear/items/weapons:

@supersnipper60 I don't agree that event related items and stuff like the Day One Patch are in the same category. Also, I'm talking about items that are part of sets, most of them completed only after the items were made unavailable. The Bone Crusher livery fits in this category as well. What's the point of having cannons, capstan and wheel when you don't have the rest of the ship? The Fearless Bone Crusher doesn't count since it has a different colour scheme that doesn't mix well with the original. Also, you say you worked hard to get those items, and you don't like the idea of them being given out for free or for just a few doubloons: I perfectly agree, and that's why the requirements to get them should be similar to what they were at the time, if not slightly harder. They could be a reward for fully completing all the commendations for the update they were introduced in (example, Forsaken Ashes stuff = complete all Forsaken Shores commendations, then buy at the Shipwright) There could be a monthly rotation so that those items still feel limited and special, while giving new players the chance to complete those sets. You should cherish an item because it looks good to you, not because by chance you were able to obtain it and other people didn't, and there is such a massive amount of now unobtainable cosmetics that honestly is a total waste.

The devs gave the players a month to get them. If you didn't know about it, no problem, you could have gotten the sword when they did the reoccuring event a few months ago. However, some players worked hard enough to get them during the original event, and the devs were nice enough to re-release the sword for the players who didn't.

@supersnipper60 I am not talking about just the sword, obviously. That's the issue: slews of cosmetic content locked forever (possibly) away from new players. Furthermore, there are pieces of those sets that are there seemingly just to taunt new players that can't complete them.
Even if someone misses an event, what would be the downside to being able to obtain the related items, say, a year later, under difficult requirements? That some people wouldn't be able to flaunt their rare stuff anymore (by the way, I have friends that have most of the past event cosmetics, and they barely ever use them anyway)? That, to me, just sounds like greed.
Anyway, neither I or you are in charge of deciding wether to rerelease content for Sea of Thieves, we can have different ideas on the matter. I stand with what I am saying.

@bobbcane Here's the downside of being able to obtain locked items a year later: imagine the devs made a sword just for a certain player. That player would use it constantly, right? Now, say that the devs give every player the exact same sword, and they all used it. The sword would lose it special feeling, as everyone uses it.

@supersnipper60 This doesn't make much sense.
First off, having an item made specifically for one player is an unlikely scenario, which I already said that I would be fine with being an exception. Also, you're assuming that player will always use that weapon, never growing tired of it, which again, is unlikely. Most people I met who actually have those limited items seldom use them, as I previously said, and tend to rotate between newer sets (mostly PL stuff) and Emporium merch.
Then again, having an exclusive item one year before anybody else sounds pretty special to me, and more people having that same item later in time doesn't take anything away from the experiences you had with it before (also, talking about "experiences" for a cosmetic item is kind of a stretch).

@bobbcane Good point.