The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s)

@coffeelight5545 said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@wolfmanbush

The shrouded ghost is so rare that I don’t bother wasting my time hunting the ghost. It’s just luck that people find one ghost but finding 5 is physically impossible

Someone recently got their 4th

@triheadedmonkey it is broken if 99% of the players havent seen it

Ahoy,

I agree with you all, that the Shrouded Ghost megalodon should remain rare, but I don't think something that is so rare should be behind commendations.

As an example, if after the 1,100+ Megalodons Encountered you still haven't found a Shrouded Ghost, then it's ridiculous in my eyes that after the first time you defeated the Shrouded Ghost you have to defeat 4 more of them. This doesn't add any extra specialness with the moment of the Shrouded Ghost encounter, this I see more to prevent players from having 100% completion in the game.

I don't think it's right that it's this way, and so I'm giving a suggestion that would make it more possible to make 100% completion in the game realisable, without changing the encounter of the Shrouded Ghost megalodon.

@sshteeve said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

99% of WoW players haven't seen Teebu’s Blazing Longsword, but it's designed that way.

Ahoy Sshteeve,

Just a small question, which your comment wasn't exactly meant for, but which I'm curious about.

Does Teebu's Blazing Longsword give you an achievement, commendation or a title other than items/loot?

@sshteeve, then I know that also that more game link this to title, that is sad to see, but thanks for your answer.

I do have another question about you answer and the question is about this part:

For example - Illidan's Warglaive, which only a handful of people in the world acquired, works towards an achievement called Warglaives of Azzinoth

Do you have to defeat Illidan's Warglaive more than once for the achievement called Warglaives of Azzinoth or do you have to do it multiple times as well?

And just to let you know, I just came up with a new idea for the issue I'm having, so I'm going to post this one even though other games do it too, then maybe I'll have still hope for a 100% completion in game 😄

Ahoy,

I came up with a new idea.

We remove the in-game titles or only the "Legendary Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" title, so that players have again a realisable feeling of achieving 100% completion in the game, and then instead of showing through in-game the number of Shrouded Ghost megalodon that you have defeated, we move this to the Sea of Thieves website on you're overview and mabye also on the Xbox status. On the Sea of Thieves website you can see how many Shrouded Ghost megalodon you have defeated and this can go higher than 5 (if ever someone manages that) and as an addition you can also see how many Shrouded Ghost megalodon you have met without defeating.

This keeps the feeling with the Shrouded Ghost encounter the same and gives the player again a realisable feeling of achieving 100% completion in the game.

Do you guys think this is a better solution or not at all?

@jtye-b

How about they hide the commendations for Shrouded Ghost like they did with Creator Crew commendations? That way players won't be annoyed when they haven't completed one (nearly impossible) commendation for Bilge Rats because it will appear as completed. In case you happen to find one it will be added to your Shrouded Spoils tab and you will be granted the title?

All Creator Crew Commendations:

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@leftypirate99 said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@jtye-b said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@sshteeve, then I know that also that more game link this to title, that is sad to see, but thanks for your answer.

I do have another question about you answer and the question is about this part:

For example - Illidan's Warglaive, which only a handful of people in the world acquired, works towards an achievement called Warglaives of Azzinoth

Do you have to defeat Illidan's Warglaive more than once for the achievement called Warglaives of Azzinoth or do you have to do it multiple times as well?

And just to let you know, I just came up with a new idea for the issue I'm having, so I'm going to post this one even though other games do it too, then maybe I'll have still hope for a 100% completion in game 😄

The answer to this is yes. Also defeating Illidan does not guarantee the drop. So you have to kill him over and over to get both the main hand and off hand versions before you get the achievement.

Thank you for your response.

Even though we are now comparing it to another game and I myself don't really know how rare it is compared to the ghost meg. I agree that the title "Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" doesn't need/should be taken away.

What I do still partially stand behind is that the "Legendary Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" should be changed, because this title actually literally ensures that players cannot have 100% completion.

Ahoy @limend,

I really like your idea.

This means that players can still show the title "Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" and that the players who have all the commendation (except the hidden title) no longer have the issue that the ghost meg title(s) remain locked.

I was thinking with you and the only small problem I came across is that when you have defeated the ghost meg once that the "Legendary Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" title will show up locked again and this would eventually lead to the same issue, or did you have it different in you're mind?

I think it should stay as it is.

I dislike an option to hide the title - this will make it unknown to players who join the game later on to know there is such a title. They may come across a Meg, look through the titles and think, "Why bother with this ? It doesn't even has a title linked" …

@jtye-b said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

I was thinking with you and the only small problem I came across is that when you have defeated the ghost meg once that the "Legendary Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" title will show up locked again and this would eventually lead to the same issue, or did you have it different in you're mind?

You're right. with Creator crew commendations, ones you hit Grade 1 it will display it as completed even thought you might be missing 2-4 grades and it won't grand you the title until you've hit certain grade.

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@lem0n-curry said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

I dislike an option to hide the title - this will make it unknown to players who join the game later on to know there is such a title. They may come across a Meg, look through the titles and think, "Why bother with this ? It doesn't even has a title linked" …

I see what you mean and I kind of agree with you.

But if titles are the only reason to do certain things, then that actually means that if you have all the titles, that there is no reason to do anything anymore.

@jtye-b said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@lem0n-curry said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

I dislike an option to hide the title - this will make it unknown to players who join the game later on to know there is such a title. They may come across a Meg, look through the titles and think, "Why bother with this ? It doesn't even has a title linked" …

I see what you mean and I kind of agree with you.

But if titles are the only reason to do certain things, then that actually means that if you have all the titles, that there is no reason to do anything anymore.

My scenario wasn't to imply that they're just playing for titles.

Could be a choice between getting away from a chase with fort loot on board and killing the Meg - they might choose for killing the Meg if it's the Ghost and getting away if it's one they already killed 50 times (or whatever the number is).

@lem0n-curry said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@jtye-b said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@lem0n-curry said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

I dislike an option to hide the title - this will make it unknown to players who join the game later on to know there is such a title. They may come across a Meg, look through the titles and think, "Why bother with this ? It doesn't even has a title linked" …

I see what you mean and I kind of agree with you.

But if titles are the only reason to do certain things, then that actually means that if you have all the titles, that there is no reason to do anything anymore.

My scenario wasn't to imply that they're just playing for titles.

Could be a choice between getting away from a chase with fort loot on board and killing the Meg - they might choose for killing the Meg if it's the Ghost and getting away if it's one they already killed 50 times (or whatever the number is).

In this situation I do agree, but you will also get this kind of situation if you have already defeated 5 ghost meg, it just depends on what you as a player value more.

Therefore I also agree that the "Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" title should stay, but that the "Legendary Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" should be adjusted to defeat 1 ghost meg, because first of all you have to be a pirate legend for this and secondly the title is not more different than the "Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost". The only thing that is different is that you have to defeat more ghost megs, but then you can go on like this, because then I can ask the question why don't we have a title for defeat 10 ghost megs and why don't we have another title where you have to defeat 15 ghost megs etc.

Therefore I think that my last idea is not a bad idea, to keep the "Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" title, but to change the "Legendary Hunter of The Shrouded Ghost" title to defeat 1 ghost meg and that there will be a new tab on the Sea of Thieves website with the number of ghost megs that you have defeated and how many you have encountered, so that you give the players who want to have a 100% completion a more realisable feeling of achieving it and keeping the feeling that you want to defeat the ghost meg once or more than five.

@jtye-b
Nope, both titles should stay - as said earlier in this topic, some new players have got it because they're lucky and some players have been actually hunting for it. The defeat 5 ghost Megs as a Legend has quite some different effort from players, and if not at least a boatload of luck, in than the kill 1 Ghost Meg.

And why ? Because some players want to have the 100% completion easier ?
What's 100% completion worth to other completionists if you have to ask the developer to remove titles to get it ?

because then I can ask the question why don't we have a title for defeat 10 ghost megs and why don't we have another title where you have to defeat 15 ghost megs etc.

I'd love to get those in the game.
-- I'm still trying to find one --
But that argument has nothing to do with your request.

my problem is this…its a glitch yes? that rare kept in the game. since its a glitch do we really know if its rng? i doubt it. given the rarity of .000001 percent im guessing a glitch is what happens to make it spawn. so is really fair to hide a commedation behind a glitch? i say no @wolfmanbush to solve your issue if they increased the rate to say 5% or 10 % its still very rare right. so someone who took down 5 of them would still have a reason to celebrate…that is the easiest fix to make it fair for everyone…make the commedation feasible to obtain…right now its just not

@madfrito99 said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

my problem is this…its a glitch yes? that rare kept in the game. since its a glitch do we really know if its rng?

So you know better than rare? We can assume that they're happy with how rare it is because they haven't changed the rate during the past two and a half years Shrouded Ghost has been out so I doubt they'd be changing it.

@madfrito99 I believe they said in a podcast once that the spawn rate for the Shrouded is just very low.

And they have buffed the spawn rate in the past. They didn’t say by how much though.

@lem0n-curry said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

Nope, both titles should stay

I never said both titles should go, I said I would rather have them go, but further in the discussion I changed my mind that the title should stay.

The defeat 5 ghost Megs as a Legend has quite some different effort from players, and if not at least a boatload of luck, in than the kill 1 Ghost Meg.

The difference between defeating 1 ghost meg and 5 is that to defeat 5 ghost megs you have to be a pirate legend to get the title, and defeating 5 ghost megs is no more difficult than defeating 1 ghost meg.

And why ? Because some players want to have the 100% completion easier ?

Yes that's right and why is this such a big deal?

What's 100% completion worth to other completionists if you have to ask the developer to remove titles to get it ?

Already said before I did not say the titles should go away, but that I prefer this, but that I changed my mind during the discussion.

I'd love to get those in the game.

I don't know exactly what you mean by this I assume you mean the ghost meg and if so I still don't get it because the ghost meg is already in the game.

I personally feel that removing a title or commendation just because you don’t have it is pretty petty. I get that you personally don’t care about titles, but I know a lot of people who hold them with a lot of sentimental feelings towards them. Heck I love my title and I’m never taking it off.

I’ve never seen the Ghost personally, but I know it’ll be a moment to remember when it finally happens. Even if the fight is exactly the same as all the others. Even if it won’t give me any special loot.

This game is about stories and making memories. No way they’d take out a title and commendation that means so much to so many people, just to appease 0.001% of people that are frustrations about this.

@ninja-naranja said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

I personally feel that removing a title or commendation just because you don’t have it is pretty petty. I get that you personally don’t care about titles, but I know a lot of people who hold them with a lot of sentimental feelings towards them. Heck I love my title and I’m never taking it off.

Already said before I have never said that the titles should go away, but that I prefer this and that during the discussions I changed my mind about doing the titles away.

I’ve never seen the Ghost personally, but I know it’ll be a moment to remember when it finally happens. Even if the fight is exactly the same as all the others. Even if it won’t give me any special loot.

I also have not seen the ghost meg yet and if you find it then I also hope it will be a good experience for you. For me though that feeling has gone away unfortunately, when I come across a ghost meg instead of being a super cool experience it has become more of a finally moment, but that aside.

This game is about stories and making memories. No way they’d take out a title and commendation that means so much to so many people, just to appease 0.001% of people that are frustrations about this.

You are right the game is also for stories and making memories, but I never said that those stories and memories that you get from the megalodons encountereds should go away.

@ninja-naranja Soo true!! there is a title for most things in the game but that?

@wolfmanbush said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

@jtye-b said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

For me though that feeling has gone away unfortunately, when I come across a ghost meg instead of being a super cool experience it has become more of a finally moment, but that aside.

because you turned a goal into a chore and an expectation. When something is just another box to check the purity of the journey becomes diluted with negativity and appreciation goes out the window.

I said that the feeling will be less special to me and that the feeling will be more of a finally moment, because for me after the 1,100+ megalodons encounter it no longer feels like how it first was for me. This has nothing to do with a check box, this is my own experience that I have given it.

The hunt is what you make it. Rare and the rarity don't have any influence in how you pursue or enjoy an adventure.

Yes rarity does have something to do with how you pursue or enjoy an adventure. If everything is the same and there is no rarity in the game, then there is nothing special about the adventure.

@wolfmanbush said in The Shrouded Ghost megalodon title(s):

there are a few posts of yours in this thread where I feel like you are making points against your own suggestions

That may be true, because during the discussion with others I changed my mind and I think that is a good thing about discussions, so you can change your point of view due to other opinions.

Mine was by far the worst RNG that I have seen

I do hope that even with the bad RNG you had, you still managed to defeated the ghost meg.

And I want to add this, because I notice that people see this topic as a way to take away the experience of the ghost meg.
It has never been my intention with this topic to take away the experience of other people, the only thing I intended with this topic is to give the people who want to complete the game 100% a more realistic view.