Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick

  • Am I the only one? Maybe it's a sign of my age, but I feel like I'm being bribed to take an interest in Twitch, which I'm really not interested in. Why would I want to watch other people play a game when I could be playing the game? I guess it's just advertising and I am free to ignore it, just like I ignore most advertising...but I will be looking down my long and hooked nose at any pirate that displays twitch-dropped livery.

    (ps: my apologies if I am breaking any of the forum rules. I'm not sure how constructive this post is, reads more like a rant to me).

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  • @ntraills said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    Why would I want to watch other people play a game when I could be playing the game?

    Yeah I feel the same way about professional and college sports, ya know?

    Yes, I'm being sarcastic.

  • @ntraills

    I only watch twitch when there are drops. Even then, I mute the device and set a 20 minute timer. I see no reason to watch other people playing a game.

  • Probably both. I know it bit annoying having to watch someone for 20 minutes where you could be out there and sailing and plundering but it only cost you 20 min to earn some free cosmetics.

    If you really hate watching and having to wait until you can set sail again with your new item, you can always put the stream on a separate device while you are playing the game or doing something else, 20 min later redeem the reward and next time you hop back on Sot your reward will be there waiting for you.

  • @ntraills said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    Am I the only one? Maybe it's a sign of my age...

    Nope. Not that. I watch plenty of Twitch and I'm knocking on 40. I know quite a few in the community there that are in their 40s and 50s also. Even some of the partnered streamers are skewed older in age.

    Not every SOT streamer is my cup of tea, to be honest, and I've definitely bounced off a few due to their toxic attitudes towards other players. But there are a lot of very welcoming and knowledgeable ones too.

    Why would I want to watch other people play a game when I could be playing the game?

    I don't know, maybe you might pick up some very helpful tricks? I learned to solo most things in the game from watching others and learning from them. It's also a good way to get involved in the community. The Sea of Thieves community on Twitch is pretty tight and you see some of the same good folks around the chats. It's a good way to meet people and share the passion for the game.

    (Also +1 to the sports comparison from SweetSandMan!)

    I guess it's just advertising and I am free to ignore it

    It is and you are.

  • @coffeelight5545 @ButterFinger750

    These seem eminently sensible ideas to me, if you want the cosmetics. I am not a collector, however, and so I don't want these cosmetics, primarily because of the admittedly irrational distaste I feel for being bribed and twitch in general.

    @SweetSandMan

    Sarcasm aside, you do raise an interesting point. I suppose I don't really watch a lot of sport and maybe that does have something to do with it...but I disagree that watching a professionally trained athlete perform feats that I could never hope to achieve is in any way similar to watching some random play a video game, sometimes not even that well. Again, my opinion is no doubt a product of my age. I mean, e-sports is a real thing, right?

  • I will keep this short and sweet, these promotions are for entirely free and optional content.

    You can choose whether or not to consume this media to earn these rewards. Having or not having these cosmetics will not affect your gameplay experience one bit so there is entirely no issue here.

  • Yeah I feel the same way about professional and college sports, ya know?

    This!

    EDIT: I see Twitch (and similar platforms) as a way to follow my hobby/sport.

  • I don't subscribe to the old timer excuse

    it's a couple of clicks and one extra to mute it if you so choose
    couldn't get easier and the price is right

    If you wanna talk age just think back to how much time and energy it used to cost us to do pretty much everything. Never in our lives has anything been as easy as a couple clicks from a chair for a reward.

  • "Why would I want to watch other people play a game when I could be playing the game?"
    Why watch sports? Why watch any sort of TV at all? It's entertainment. I'm sure there are plenty of times where you don't feel like playing the game or simply can't.
    The Sea of Thieves community is relatively small. I've met and played with tons of good people through Twitch streams and was able to grow my own Twitch to a decent sizing through people who enjoy my company in-game and hang out in my streams.

  • I watch from work when able. I've learned a lot by watching these more experienced players. and a lot of them are entertaining. I dare say I feel I've made friends with some of them. and engaging with the Twitch SoT community has been a great way to make new friends and pick up crew mates. As a Twitch streamer myself I also want to support content creator that I enjoy, and tuning in for drops let's me do that while getting rewarded in turn, for doing something I probably was going to be doing anyway.

  • Do what I do and just put on a random stream , set the volume to mute and come back in 30 minutes. Twitch drops earned.

  • Just use your phone. Leave it on mute for 25 min. Done!

  • I don't like some of the streaming partners so I don't watch them anymore.

  • I usually have it on my phone in the background, usually also while I’m playing games.

  • It's just a promotional stunt to recruit pirates to artificially inflate numbers to draw even more pirates to the Sea. As long as they keep paying me in cosmetics, I don't really care 1 way or the other.

    That said, I would eventually like Twitch-drop-based cosmetics to eventually be offered by other means.

  • Why would I want to watch other people play a game when I could be playing the game?

    You do know. Your not forced to do these things.
    Also. You actually don’t even have to watch. Just start a stream that offers the reward, let it run for the time needed and…walk away.

  • @ntraills said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    Am I the only one? Maybe it's a sign of my age, but I feel like I'm being bribed to take an interest in Twitch, which I'm really not interested in. Why would I want to watch other people play a game when I could be playing the game? I guess it's just advertising and I am free to ignore it, just like I ignore most advertising...but I will be looking down my long and hooked nose at any pirate that displays twitch-dropped livery.

    (ps: my apologies if I am breaking any of the forum rules. I'm not sure how constructive this post is, reads more like a rant to me).

    you are not the only one, they do my head in, especially when its unique cosmetics you can't get anywhere else.

    @musicmee said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    I will keep this short and sweet, these promotions are for entirely free and optional content.

    You can choose whether or not to consume this media to earn these rewards. Having or not having these cosmetics will not affect your gameplay experience one bit so there is entirely no issue here.

    but there is an issue, it does affect gameplay experiences when people want a particular look to go with their $40 ship set but they can't get that set because they are not a partnered streamer or was forced into watching them.

    When the cosmetics are unique and unobtainable by normal means, there is indeed an issue there.

  • @AmyBun

    @burnbacon said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    You do know. Your not forced to do these things.
    Also. You actually don’t even have to watch. Just start a stream that offers the reward, let it run for the time needed and…walk away.

  • @ntraills I find a twitch drop stream on my phone and put it down for 20mins. I don't actually watch the stream I'm just checking the 100% completion bar.

  • @ntraills

    i can't say that i'm a fan of the Twitch Drops . Like you said , i like to play myself . i do have to say that i use Twitch to see if a game would be something for me if i don't know that game.
    But the problem is not Twitch , it's the ones who use Twitch and the way they present themselves.
    In that i mean , take Sea of Thieves , for how many Streamers does it go about the game ? It looks more like a self glorifying show where the game comes on second or even thirth place.

    i have always wondered why some need to put their face in the corner of the game . i rather prefer streamers that don't use the camera , with them you have a chance they just play the game without making advertisement for themselves...

    One little sidenote : i'm glad that we are only forced to twenty minutes . My trick is to make the audio as silent that i just can hear a little whispering , otherwise in silence i doesn't get acknowledged , and i watch or play something different...

    Do not get me wrong , i absolutely love SOT but the way how it's advertised by some make my stomach turn.

  • @amybun said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    but there is an issue, it does affect gameplay experiences when people want a particular look to go with their $40 ship set but they can't get that set because they are not a partnered streamer or was forced into watching them.

    When the cosmetics are unique and unobtainable by normal means, there is indeed an issue there.

    Giving away something for free that only requires a couple clicks and really no focus or attention beyond that isn't an issue.

    From what I've observed it's largely people having some sort of beef with the partners for whatever reason or the platform itself. A beef that is theirs to have if they wanna have it but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with the system itself. It's a very simple exchange of time for cosmetics without price tags.

    If people want to protest platforms or people go for it but that personal beef shouldn't be used to prevent everyone else from being able to easily get free cosmetics or streamers from getting activity which helps boost the game and has long helped boost the game.

  • @clumsy-george said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    Do not get me wrong , i absolutely love SOT but the way how it's advertised by some make my stomach turn.

    It's a PvPvE game.

    Some partners dig up treasure, deliver cargo, and participate in events.

    A lot of other partners fight players and sink ships to varying levels of success.

    I'd argue the streamers advertise the game better than whoever is running the game's general advertising. You're a pirate in a world of other pirates, and other pirates will likely out best you in numerous various ways.

    The personal beef over certain partners is genuinely ridiculous and speaks more of a player's spite than anything.

  • @nex-stargaze

    i think that i wasn't writing clearly , i have no problems with playstyle and believe me, i do know ,after 5 years playing , that this is a PvP PvE game . But my biggest gripe are the "Oh my Gods " , the shouting and screaming of "amazement" ... Can people not just play instead of " the look at me, look at me" mentality that some streamers have ?...

    And i don't have a personal beef with no one , because apart from the Twitch drops , i watch no one on Sea of Thieves Streams because i simply play and enjoy the game ...

  • @clumsy-george said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    @nex-stargaze

    i think that i wasn't writing clearly , i have no problems with playstyle and believe me, i do know ,after 5 years playing , that this is a PvP PvE game . But my biggest gripe are the "Oh my Gods " , the shouting and screaming of "amazement" ... Can people not just play instead of " the look at me, look at me" mentality that some streamers have ?...

    Personally I'm not compatible with that style either but whatever they have between them and their audience that view them daily/weekly is between them. We are entering their world for a bit in exchange for a cosmetic. We aren't going to be engaging or contributing and participating outside of drop times so why does our opinion on them or their content have any relevancy?

    We can always find an individual that better suits our preferences for that short amount of time.

    In my opinion people come into this making it too personal. They don't know us and we don't know them and we are gonna make a deal and go our separate ways. As outsiders of the content I don't think our personal opinions really matter much, we are just there to get a cosmetic.

  • @wolfmanbush

    Agreed on that but if Twitch could just let us get the Drops while we can mute them then you would never hear me bark against trees...That's for sure.

  • @clumsy-george said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    @wolfmanbush

    Agreed on that but if Twitch could just let us get the Drops while we can mute them then you would never hear me bark against trees...That's for sure.

    You can mute them and get drops

  • @wolfmanbush

    Uhm , i tried that and the drops time counter stopped counting , so for some strange reason i can't

  • @clumsy-george said in Twitch Drops Make Me Sea-Sick:

    @wolfmanbush

    Uhm , i tried that and the drops time counter stopped counting , so for some strange reason i can't

    for technical issues like that you can always try clearing cookies/cache and signing out/signing back in

    can also try refreshing the page or starting on a different streamer

    I've never had any issue when it comes to muting, mine even starts off muted for some reason

    you can also try muting the tab itself up top or just turn the stream volume way down

  • Not a big fan of the twilight hunter twitch drops myself but Overall I enjoy them because I can troll my friends a tad because they go nuts for items they don't have. (we're rare item collectors)

  • @ntraills because thats exactly what it is, SoT wants twitch numbers to boost up so more people are aware of the game and think oh that looks cool maybe i'll buy it and the streamers want eyeballs on their streams. to get you to boost numbers they give you free cosmetics.

    lots of games do this buy SoT really goes overboard with them. if your the kind of person that wants to collect everything you will be watching twitch for hours every week. although as people have said you dont have to be actively watching. you can be playing the game with a stream open (and muted) in the background and get the item, rare or the streamer dont care (well the streamer might if your muted you dont count towards their viewer number)

  • Ahoy maties!

    As this discussion seems to be going around in circles like a sloop hard locked left... I will reiterate.

    Watching Twitch is entirely optional, for entirely optional cosmetics that have no affect on your gameplay experience whatsoever.

    If you want the cosmetics now, watch (or not) a streamer for 20 minutes... but if you are not interested then move along and wait for the next in-game cosmetics to drop there is nothing more to say.

    Dropping anchor here!

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