Make Dark Brethren a REAL threath.

I would really rather they not make any more Disney related content, for a few reasons. Rare does not own any of the non-SoT characters involved in the Pirates of the Caribbean tie in. They would have to pay BIG MONEY to Disney to continue using any of them outside the existing Tall Tales. It's also very clear that Disney had a hand in designing these Tall Tales. I would rather they keep their hands as far away from Sea of Thieves as possible from now on. Not to say the tall tales weren't fun, but they were VERY Disneyfied and laughably easy - even the "epic final boss fight."

I'm going to be blunt here. It sounds like you've paid attention to nothing from the Tall Tales and Adventures if you think Flameheart is just the angry red cloud whose fleets used to circle islands. Flameheart wasn't even the first big enemy - that was probably Graymarrow, who is not loyal to Flameheart in any way. Flameheart also isn't as dumb as you seem to think he is. He did plenty of pulling the strings from the shadows before his big reveal. To name several instances of him not going in guns blazing:

• In Seabound Soul, you find that he's been pulling strings from the shadows for a long time. He manipulated Stitcher Jim into freeing Captain Arthur Pendragon's soul from a painting and then leaving a journal behind. The journal contained locations of souls trapped in skulls, which Flameheart knew Arthur would want to free. The last skull was Flameheart's.
• In Heart of Fire, Flameheart further manipulates Stitcher Jim into bringing him the Chest of Rage. He then tricks Stitcher Jim (who was about to flee), giving him the Ashen Curse and telling him that he will become one of Flameheart's Ashen Lords. Whether or not the transformation was successful has no bearing on anything (and honestly, I wouldn't rely on the RPG to be canon since it's so niche). Stitcher Jim is first and foremost an opportunist. He's loyal to nobody but himself and was about to leave Flameheart behind when Flameheart cursed him.
• In the First Adventure, he has the reapers shroud a bunch of islands, and then has them set up a ritual for summoning a Soulflame Captain on Shipwreck Bay. He is not directly involved in any of this.
• In the Second Adventure, we learn that Flameheart wanted us to kill the Soulflame Captains, as it would weaken the veil between the Sea of the Damned and the Sea of Thieves. He tricked us into killing them. He used this weakened veil to bring in the Sea Forts from the Sea of the Damned. He then imprisoned the inhabitants of Golden Sands in them in order to try and coerce Wonda into joining him. Doesn't sound very "guns blazing" to me.
• In the Third Adventure, he was after the Veil that the ancients had hidden within the Shrouded Ghost. Rather than going in guns blazing, he waited for us to summon the Shrouded Ghost and then sent his ships in to ambush us.
• In the Fourth Adventure, he's entirely not present at all. He's biding his time while the reapers and the people of Golden Sands fight each other. There are no guns blazing, there are no ghost fleets. It's just a small scale fight - the Reapers trying to sabotage the rebuilding efforts.
• In the new PL Voyage, you learn that the Veil can open a passageway between the Sea of the Damned and the Sea of Thieves. You are tasked with gathering the Veil stones and then giving the completed veil to the Pirate Lord, Ramsey. Throughout this, you find that those loyal to Flameheart have at least one of the stones (the third one and the one in the Reaper Shipwreck Graveyeard). Flameheart is directly involved in a grand total of none of it. But it's made very clear that were his forces to obtain the completed veil, he would return in full force and destroy the Sea of Thieves as we know it.

If it's the Flameheart world event you're bored of, then just come out and say so. A world event, I must add, that doesn't even happen anymore. That's why these adventures are happening. They're telling more of the story of a real threat to the Sea of Thieves. The new PL Voyage also ties in with it. If you want Flameheart to be a threat, this is what they're doing.

You want an enemy whose presence you can feel. That's Flameheart's forces - the Ashen Lords, the Reapers, Ghost Ships, the inhabitants of the Sea Forts, and the forces you fight at the end of the Legend of the Veil voyage. You also want an enemy who plots behind the scenes and pulls the strings and manipulates others. That's Flameheart.

The other reason Flameheart isn't a """"""threat"""""" is that the story takes a backseat in the Sea of Thieves - it's a sandbox. Probably less than 25% of players have even done the Tall Tales (if the Steam achievements are to be believed, it's less than 10%). The Dark Brethren would also therefore never be a threat, since their story would also take a backseat.

I think you did not pay any attention to the tales as Dark Brethren does not belong to disney anymore. Davy Jones is gone and no other member is a disney dude.

@thorumsu said in Make Dark Brethren a REAL threath.:

I think you did not pay any attention to the tales as Dark Brethren does not belong to disney anymore. Davy Jones is gone and no other member is a disney dude.

I paid a lot more attention than you did, obviously. Since only one small part of my post was about Disney at all and that's the only thing you decided to latch onto. You're still the one who thinks Flameheart is 1) dumb, and 2) never plots from the shadows.

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@thorumsu said in Make Dark Brethren a REAL threath.:

I think you did not pay any attention to the tales as Dark Brethren does not belong to disney anymore. Davy Jones is gone and no other member is a disney dude.

I paid a lot more attention than you did, obviously. Since only one small part of my post was about Disney at all and that's the only thing you decided to latch onto. You're still the one who thinks Flameheart is 1) dumb, and 2) never plots from the shadows.

But he never has a PERMANENT win. He released seaforts, We defeated them like nothing.

FOTD was once again defeated by blind and planless fighting.

They kidnapped the residents only for pirates to once again blindly attack the jailor and free them in a day.

AT LEAST MAKE OUR VICTORY HARD AND NOT SOME PLANNLES FIGHTING.

The "victories" you say are just plans to defeat us. Not a result. None of them works. I would not be mad if we had to do some cool strategy's and stuff. We just attack back and win.

He attacks, We attack back, We win. No strategy. Nothing. Only mindless fighting.

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A permanent win would likely mean the game is over. We'd all be bound as skeletons, unable to return from the ferry and the Sea of Thieves would be under complete control.

I am not saying it like that. He needed a win that effected us in a bad way like an outpost being destroyed. Its too late for Flameheart now so I hope Dark Brethern will be a bigger threath.

Make a 1 in 10 chance to not be sent to the ferry and your pirate just dies forever and you lose all progress and account.

@thorumsu Except it's NOT too late for Flameheart. Rare just didn't design the latest Adventure well enough to motivate people to balance things. I was actually hoping for the reapers to win purely to see what would happen. The fact that it was even an option at all shows that it's not too late for Flameheart.