Hourglass: Trolls

@lleorb Hourglass isn’t a competitive mode.

Runners aren’t bannable but it does do wonders why they choose to put down the Hourglass vote knowing they’d have to fight. To be honest as well you only have a limited space to catch them so if you’re failing to, that’s kind of on you too.

Idk. I e come across a runner and was still able to…you know have a rowboat with kegs nearby and blast them out of the water.

Defenders beats divers

@lleorb it’s a finite space. Out manoeuvre them and you’ll catch them once they turn around.

Regarding it “being a mode”. Arena was a mode. Adventure is a mode. Hourglass lives within Adventure, it’s not a separate entity. Yes it’s PvP and has competitive elements but it is not a competitive mode.

@lleorb Just give up I promise 3/4 of the people responding to the comments have barely touched the mode.

Mode has so many problems that people have pointed out since day one and instead of implementing any Rare abandoned the mode entirely.

@nitroxien PvP veteran in both Arena, LSD + TSD, and Hourglass here with both curses 230+ levels on each faction. I know what I’m talking about don’t you worry yourself ;)

@lleorb then don’t board, put pressure on them via cannons, chain shot their mast, force them to slow down in other ways. If you can only board to win the match, then you need to adapt and find better a way to win. A good player will always adapt their fighting strategy based on their opponent’s style. If they run, chase, position, fire, disable, keep the pressure up, board then, kill = win.

Welcome to Solo Sloop HG.

Runners, Cheaters, Loose Farmers and sometimes normal players xD

@lleorb sounds like you’re used to the easy win then, but now you’re coming up against folk actually sailing around, you’ve got no clue how to actually take them down because you can’t adapt your “meta method”…

@tesiccl but there is a difference between a better crew who fights and a crew who can run, from my experience, it is very infuriating when you're on a high streak. but to be clear turning out to rep, fix or prevent a board is very different than straight running that is happening here. if you do not want to pvp then don't raise the hourglass it's pretty simple. these crews typically want to fight and if you run will be very annoyed.

If someone is trolling you, the worst thing you could do is to give them exactly what they want.

I agree there should be some changes to HG to prevent this - time limit seems to be the simplest and easiest option, what exactly happens once the ''hourglass'' runs out, is up for a debate.

But at the moment, it is what it is. When this happens to me/us we just stop the ship at the middle of the circle and raise our sails and attempt boarding. No player who is confident in sinking others will do this runners tactic, the ones who run will slip up and give you an opportunity to sink them/sail them out of bounds. All you have to do is board them, anchor them, kill them and try to spawn camp until your mate comes with the ship. Obviously easier said than done, but we won a lot more than lost against such players.

@lleorb It's unsportsmanlike, perhaps toxic, but it would never get punished. Worst kind of punishment would having such players matched against others doing same things.

I am not arguing about what you said at all, just want to point out that this was the case since the beginning and hourglass has been out for a year. I don't think Rare sees this as a priority at all. Which is a shame, that game mode has a lot of potential to be amazing.

@lleorb said in Hourglass: Trolls:

@wolfmanbush @ZiG-ZaG-LTU you're talking as if what I'm asking for would take months to implement or investigate

Hourglass has been out for a year, nothing was added or changed as far as I remember, apart from alliances being able to gain reputation for ganging on a single ship.

@lleorb said in Hourglass: Trolls:

@zig-zag-ltu I'm not asking for a change in hourglass, I'm asking for this behavior to be classified as toxicity and subject to ban, nothing will have to be implemented in the game.

Look, I am not saying that there should not be a way of preventing this, but outright banning a player for simply sailing around and you not being able to sink him quickly enough to your satisfaction is like saying people should get shot on spot for stealing. Some would agree with this too.

I think you are just a bit upset that this happens to you and that there are no other players you get matched with and this is the guy you always get atm.

I think another solution should be explored instead of looking to ban someone for something annoying, unsportsmanlike, but yet - harmless. Just my opinion.

@lleorb I understand, I was just stating my opinion regarding punishment.

It happens quite often to me too, I am not HG fanatic and I only have a little bit less than 180 total combined levels in it. Obviously such encounters are frustrating and not pleasant, but I forget all about them when I meet a crew like my last one.

Some guys who did not miss a single shot naval and with a sniper. We battled out for like 20 minutes, we nearly sank them but their perfect aim won them the fight. Obviously they had aimbot, sniping perfectly through waves, from every distance, from water, every blunder shot was 1hk....

Worst thing about it, in game report can only be submitted for ''offensive'' things and not cheaters.

Rare support replied that there is not enough evidence. Those battles happen fast, I don't have time to read names, I fully concentrate on the objective. And what's funny to me is that for a mode like hourglass there no easy option to report someone.

Yesterday we played some guys, can't remember who won, I think we did...He was using his mic quite a lot, but he only said one single word repeatedly, the ''N'' word, I found that hilarious, I'm just sorry for some folk who would take offense to that and would have to endure it. Yet again no idea how to report someone like that.

P.S. I am not using Xbox to record, don't know how and not sure if it even works for me.

Just a simple report function and the 'recent' players should have some kind of time stamp to show when you seen them last.

So yeah, a couple of runners I could board and kill for me is not the biggest issue with hourglass. 22 minutes is not that bad either, we had a sloop battle for 1h 30mins if i remember correctly :D

Had a 1.5 hour fight with a runner yesterday who constantly trolled on VC, did the best I could to outsail them, put pressure but eventually ran out of supps.

Ended up grabbing a rowie and a keg, rowed about 15 minites to sneak up and blow them to hell while they were fishing.

A decent sailer is extremely hard to nail down on solo sloop if they are commited to running and trolling. HG really does need some sort of method to deal with this