HORN OF FAIR WINDS PLZZZZZ

Agreed. Really just increase natural spawn rate. Seen some good ideas on this forum about adding them to siren skull voyages and the like. Even aside from the commendations, they basically feel like they aren't even in the game which is a shame because they seem like they'd be fun. Haven't fought another crew that has one and I've only found 3 in the last month (granted I haven't done any shrines).

I don't think they should be lying around everywhere, but they are just too rare. They have potential to be super strong so I imagine they wanted to make them somewhat hard to find, just feels like it's a few too notches in that direction.

@i-marmot-i said in HORN OF FAIR WINDS PLZZZZZ:

Agreed. Really just increase natural spawn rate. Seen some good ideas on this forum about adding them to siren skull voyages and the like. Even aside from the commendations, they basically feel like they aren't even in the game which is a shame because they seem like they'd be fun. Haven't fought another crew that has one and I've only found 3 in the last month (granted I haven't done any shrines).

I don't think they should be lying around everywhere, but they are just too rare. They have potential to be super strong so I imagine they wanted to make them somewhat hard to find, just feels like it's a few too notches in that direction.

Increase the avenues for obtaining the horn please. We would like to play with the new toy.

So once you completed this commendation, what next on your list of things Not to Grind for?

Game like this needs grinds, otherwise, what else reason do some of us play for

Yep, horn of fair winds is basically completely absent from the game. We should also be able to dip between servers with it. Right now, there is almost no reason to go out of your way to get the horn, because you know at a certain point you will dip again to a new server, and it will disappear. It's usefulness is so slim right now.

I suggest adding them to the Coral Message in a Bottle. Not crazy common, but at least a guaranteed one if you to the relevant Shire/Treasury.

I farmed these nonstop for a week and was able to get it done. It wasn't difficult, it was just time consuming. I learned a few helpful tricks on the way, turned my brain off, and watched youtube vids. Now I'm working on other achievements, and am kinda mad I can't watch vids anymore, and have to pay attention to what I'm doing lol.

You'll get it done OP. I promise you. Compared to other achievements I've completed, a week was nothing. It took me MONTHS (almost a year) to get another crew to turn in generous gifts for me. Many times I had a generous gift, and no one in sight to ask, talk about frustrating. I didn't even get a t-shirt for it. Keep at it OP. You'll get there.

@europa4033 said in HORN OF FAIR WINDS PLZZZZZ:

I farmed these nonstop for a week and was able to get it done. It wasn't difficult, it was just time consuming. I learned a few helpful tricks on the way, turned my brain off, and watched youtube vids. Now I'm working on other achievements, and am kinda mad I can't watch vids anymore, and have to pay attention to what I'm doing lol.

You'll get it done OP. I promise you. Compared to other achievements I've completed, a week was nothing. It took me MONTHS (almost a year) to get another crew to turn in generous gifts for me. Many times I had a generous gift, and no one in sight to ask, talk about frustrating. I didn't even get a t-shirt for it. Keep at it OP. You'll get there.

I've been testing after the patch that randomised the spawn. ONLY doing shrines and shipwrecks, I find roughly 1 every 2-3 hours. It's only a small sample size (about 30 hours this week) but if the trend with the RNG continues, that's between 500-750 hours of grinding to get this done now - if your gameplay is ONLY shrines and shipwrecks, and nothing else.

Yes, there are tricks and some shrines are better than others in terms of time or being able to tell if there's a HoFW before actually entering, but it's still an incredibly big grind. The average player won't complete it for years.

Some players used the poor spawn before the patch to grind it, and they've basically been rewarded for doing that. They should have nerfed the commendation to something more reasonable (which, as others have pointed out would also increase the number of people actually using this tool as intended) or increased the spawn rate overall.

@realstyli As one of the people who took advantage of the spawns before the change, it needs to be updated. I've been helping a friend work on his and its just atrocious. The grind before was awful and unfun, with the changes it's worse.

I totally agree with you.

I've sold 51 of the them now and it takes like forever. Today I haven't gotten a single one. In 3 hours of active doing shrines.
In my opinion, the best thing would be if there is to 100% 1 horn in every shrine and in every Treasury on the map and after you get it, then it do not spawn for an hour or two on this specific shrine on this server.

Also the possibly to find them in shipwrecks is way to low now...

@xthirdeye3x said in HORN OF FAIR WINDS PLZZZZZ:

Or increase the spawns of them…..

^^^ THIS

They implemented something FUN in the game...why on earth do they not want people to have fun with it? It's insane to me.

@burnbacon some people like to actually play with the tools added to the game in case you were wondering why they want it to be more frequent

@europa4033 you're part of the problem. They reduced the spawn rate because people were farming them.

@wolfmanbush said in HORN OF FAIR WINDS PLZZZZZ:n

I play this game all the time, it's pretty obvious how uninterested players are (organically) with these new comms being so extreme.

I think it's fine for some activities. Skelly kills, skelly ship scattershot hits, bringing loot onboard by walking the harpoon line, etc.... are all fine. You can get those pretty quick through organic play.

There are a number of issues with the Storm Sale commendation:

• It's based on selling an item that spawns very rarely
• There's a relatively high number of them to sell to complete
• The item doesn't get used as it was intended because players just want to sell them ASAP if they happen to find one
• The comm unlocks a very coveted sail for purchase, so folks really want to get it done

I think the best ideas that folks have come up with so far are putting it as a guarantee in Treasuries if you have a message in a bottle quest for it, and have a dig for one as a reward for completing the SoSS voyage. I would leave the random shipwreck and shrine spawns as-is, in that case, as those two other ways to get one would help a lot - and also breathe life back into Treasuries and the SoSS.

@captain-fob4141 I just got mine a few days ago. I never exploited it when that was active. I can send you a screenshot as proof of my progress if you'd like? Throughout the week I kept a few friends updated on the progress I was making. Let me know when I can send those screenshots to you.

@wolfmanbush
I have screenshots to prove I did/completed this AFTER they patched it. I had no idea the patch was coming, and decided to work on other commendations instead since a few YouTube vids showed how easy it was to do. Then I woke up at messages from friends telling me the change, and that's when I started. Like I said, it took me approximately a week or so to complete it.

@wolfmanbush

Just sent you my screenshots (which also show the dates of my progress and how many I had). I also sent a few here my screenshots as well, so they can see for themselves.

@wolfmanbush
Sent it to you.

@europa4033 said in HORN OF FAIR WINDS PLZZZZZ:

@wolfmanbush
Sent it to you.

You sent it to me as well. I appreciate the explanation.

I can see how that would increase the chances (and it's the exact cheese, not exploit, I thought you were doing), but unless you are not working a full time job, it's still very unlikely for most people to do it in a week with that method.

Still doable in a month for most people, though, if that's all you do in the game and nothing else. The point of my test was to see the average best case scenario in organic play.

It doesn't really solve the issue people are complaining about, which is that it's still an enormous grind if you try to do it naturally and through actually enjoying the game.

@realstyli

I'm just glad you can perfectly see I never took advantage of the exploit, and what I posted was the truth regardless. And for @Captain Fob141 to say I'm "part of the problem" without knowing anything about me, the strat I used, and to assume I farmed an exploit, isn't fair to me. Ask me questions all you like, but please don't accuse me of taking the easy road, and then lecturing others here how "easy" it was for me to grind these.

At least you and Wolfmanbush know the truth, and have all the proof you need. I'm more than happy to help others farm for these, now that I'm done with mine, which means it'll only go that much faster for others. Let me know if you'd like some help!

It would be nice if the horn was given after delivering the sirens skull. Then I would have an interest in delivering that skull.

@europa4033 all you did was prove that you are in fact part of the problem... you just don't seem to understand what the problem is.

Aggressively sending unprompted screenshots is seriously weird and the defensive behavior just cements that you know it's not "normal" gameplay to do what you did.

Cheesing and exploiting in game mechanics is not "normal" gameplay and is part of the problem. It's the exact mentality that rare clearly wants to avoid by nerfing spawn rates into oblivion.

@wolfmanbush absolutely. Doesn't mean people hardcore farming 30+ horns a day is good for the player base and doesn't drive the push to nerf the spawn rate of one of the most original new tools we've had in years. The average player is currently seeing less than one horn per session. Forget commendations, I just want to use the new tool.

I'm absolutely going to call out the people bragging about farming it to the nerfing point.