My Miserable Hunt for Horns of Fair Winds

  • In an attempt to complete the "Storm Sale" commendation -- selling 100 Horns of Fair Winds -- I have spent the last week diving to the Shrine of Hungering Embrace via the Seabound Soul Tall Tale.

    The good news is that I can cycle through one of these attempts in about 5 minutes and 15 seconds, so it goes fast. As soon as you learn the result -- Horn there or horn not there -- you leave game and start a new session.

    The bad news is that, on average, I am finding a horn once in every 10.65 dives. I dove 245 times and found only 23 horns.

    Considering that there are (supposedly) two Horns of Fair Winds per server and there are six Shrines, statistically the chances of finding a Horn in any given Shrine are one in three. That hasn't been my experience by any stretch. It's hard to escape the conclusion that the SoT code is written to disfavor diving to the Shrine of Hungering Embrace.

    It's unpleasant diving and diving and diving and finding nothing. I once went 22 consecutives times without finding one.

    Incidentally, since the Horn of Fair Winds was introduced, I have checked more than 60 shipwrecks. I found exactly one Horn.

    Seems like yet another huge, unnecessary time suck.

    Curious about other folks' experiences.

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  • In an attempt to complete the "Storm Sale" commendation -- selling 100 Horns of Fair Winds -- I have spent the last week diving to the Shrine of Hungering Embrace via the Seabound Soul Tall Tale.

    Are you in a rush or something? Don’t expect these commendations to disappear by the end of the season?

    They aren’t going anywhere. Don’t rush, you be more surprised how many you find when you don’t try

    Curious about other folks' experiences

    Gonna wait until next season. When people are less out searching for them :)

  • Imo the real issue is that it's a tool in a season that was supposed to be shifting away from the monotonous leveling up type of grinds.

    If it was just a piece of treasure then it's whatever, happens when it happens. Another extreme grind that a lot of people would ignore or move on from.

    The extreme requirements, extreme rng, and extreme nerfs made it pretty pointless as a tool.

    Imo the fun part of sot needs to truly be embraced and extreme grinds should stop being a part of seasons. There is enough of it and there aren't a whole lot of people that truly do them organically anymore.

    Seasons are often too easy for people to leave. They pop in for the new stuff, see it's behind wild grinds, get uninterested/frustrated and then it's right back to "buggy/broken game" and then bounce for most of the season.

    The game is fun at its core, doesn't need to be made less fun by turning every season into an extreme grind imo. The "there is nothing to do" crowd will never be happy, let 'em move on. Creating more frustration through unnecessary grinds is sending people away that might otherwise stay if they were rewarded for having fun.

  • I remember when this was supposed to be a tool to change up the game with many uses but I don't think anyone expected it to be so difficult to obtain by rng.

    If it was just a normal treasure item in every shipwreck, shrine and treasury like an Ashen Winds Skull we would see such a change in the gameplay but here we are at the mercy of the no fun police.

  • @obscureberry192 you’d rather just farm them quickly and get the intentionally grindy commendation done in a few days like all the try hards who think they deserve special recognition for no lifing it before the change? Maybe just enjoy the gameplay instead of turning it into a farming scenario. It doesn’t have to be all done by next season.

  • @obscureberry192 I am sitting at 5 sold so far. Mine have come from shipwrecks as I have not really been interested in re-doing shrines unless I know for sure that there are going to be good odds of finding horns that way. Shipwreck odds are also very low, but at least they are part of my normal playstyle.

  • @obscureberry192
    When first released, I found 9 by playing organically. I've always searched shipwrecks and I even did a few shrines and treasuries just to see if I could find one. The spawn rate seemed to be fine without trying to farm them.

    After they changed the spawn rate due to players farming them, I've continued searching shipwrecks but actually went out of my way to do several shrines and treasuries I normally wouldn't have, just to finally get one horn. I found it in a shipwreck that didn't have a reaper chest. The spawn rate seemed to drop significantly, OR I've just been really unlucky.

  • I’ve come to find out that if you find a horn in a treasury or shrine leave and come back 15 minutes and another one will respond I’ve searched prob 20-30 shipwrecks since the update and no horn

  • @burnbacon I jump off at every shipwreck I pass during my play sessions. I have still not found a single Horn this whole season. So the only way to get this commendation is to grind for it.

  • @tesiccl said in My Miserable Hunt for Horns of Fair Winds:

    @obscureberry192 you’d rather just farm them quickly and get the intentionally grindy commendation done in a few days like all the try hards who think they deserve special recognition for no lifing it before the change? Maybe just enjoy the gameplay instead of turning it into a farming scenario. It doesn’t have to be all done by next season.

    Typical bad take from you.

    The closest commendation to compare with the storm sail commendation is the turn in breaths of the sea one and it’s 30 breaths of the sea.

    Other commendations such as open 100 vaults and finish 100 legend of the veils are set to 100 because they can be farmed as quickly as a crew wants.

    Even turn in 50 hero items for each company by doing raid voyages is also reasonable.

    What is NOT reasonable is the spawn rate of the horn of fair winds OR the commendation being set to 250 horns; even 100 horns is still a lot.

    It doesn’t make any sense in typical Rare fashion.

    Hey guys let’s reduce many of the other war chest commendations by a factor of 10 or more but the hardest to complete war chest commendation only was reduced by a factor of 2.5 when the horn itself is super hard to find.

    Ideally an intelligent dev team would have lowered the storm sail commendation to say 50 horns and simultaneously increased the spawn chances of it spawning.

    Instead we get to feel screwed over for how hard the other easier to complete war chest commendations got nerfed and the singular commendation that actually needed a nerf is still really hard to complete.

    You literally can’t make this stuff. How can they design the thing and be so out of touch with their own creation?

  • My heart hurt reading that it takes 100 to complete the commendation, that’s actually silly. I assumed after the update they lowered it to atleast 50, which in my opinion is still a lot. I found 2 horns out of 4 sunken treasuries. I read elsewhere that they most likely spawn in treasuries and shipwrecks that have reaperchest. Such a shame it costs 100 horns to complete, I really want the season title sooner rather than later. Someone needs to change the spawn rate. Maybe even make them available in digs. Something needs to change.
    P.S: I feel like season commendations should be able to be completed within the season.

  • I wish they would add them to organically spawned regular skull forts.

  • @savvystraw37257 might be a typical take from me, but, luckily for you, it’s just your opinion so calling it bad is just that, your ‘opinion’. Of which I can ignore, and I will be choosing to.

  • @jondle-4 this is patched.

  • I've been going out my way to search every shipwreck i pass and have not found a single one in the last month.

    Definitely feels off now.

  • @wolfmanbush said in My Miserable Hunt for Horns of Fair Winds:

    Imo the real issue is that it's a tool in a season that was supposed to be shifting away from the monotonous leveling up type of grinds.

    If it was just a piece of treasure then it's whatever, happens when it happens. Another extreme grind that a lot of people would ignore or move on from.

    The extreme requirements, extreme rng, and extreme nerfs made it pretty pointless as a tool.

    Imo the fun part of sot needs to truly be embraced and extreme grinds should stop being a part of seasons. There is enough of it and there aren't a whole lot of people that truly do them organically anymore.

    Seasons are often too easy for people to leave. They pop in for the new stuff, see it's behind wild grinds, get uninterested/frustrated and then it's right back to "buggy/broken game" and then bounce for most of the season.

    The game is fun at its core, doesn't need to be made less fun by turning every season into an extreme grind imo. The "there is nothing to do" crowd will never be happy, let 'em move on. Creating more frustration through unnecessary grinds is sending people away that might otherwise stay if they were rewarded for having fun.

    Didn't you say in another post that you completed this within the first few weeks of it coming out? With the original commendation of 250? And with the original (higher) spawn rates? And yet you're talking about how the grinds shouldn't be part of the seasons, as if they're bad or something. When Rare looks at the data you will show up as one of those players that gets things done really quickly and will encourage them to make things even more grindy in the future because that particular feature is being recorded as positive engagement, from you.

    I know this is a more personal message which is disallowed on the forums but man, you couldn't sound more hypocritical.

  • @rare-jumbie said in My Miserable Hunt for Horns of Fair Winds:

    Didn't you say in another post that you completed this within the first few weeks of it coming out? With the original commendation of 250? And with the original (higher) spawn rates? And yet you're talking about how the grinds shouldn't be part of the seasons, as if they're bad or something. When Rare looks at the data you will show up as one of those players that gets things done really quickly and will encourage them to make things even more grindy in the future because that particular feature is being recorded as positive engagement, from you.

    I know this is a more personal message which is disallowed on the forums but man, you couldn't sound more hypocritical.

    The grinds get nerfed because they see how few people are doing them at the extreme numbers. Happened with this season just like it happened with Captaincy.

    I've had high numbers in this game as a solo for years. I didn't play a different amount of hours than I normally do and the grind was very comparable to how I play the game every day because I killed a comparable amount of megs/krakens/skelly ships as I always do.

    This was one of the few grinds that was completely compatible with how I play. I didn't do any of the HG grind because it was not compatible with how I play.

    If they were to examine my data it would line up with how I have played for years.

    Everything I do is way more than required for any sort of in-game reward and it's way higher than most people that play.

    The only thing about that grind that was out of the ordinary for me was the supping. I typically never gather supplies and it required a lot of supply gathering, the rest was just a bunch of pve that I already do a lot of.

    Before season 12 I already had a very high amount of shipwrecks and sea forts, I've done a lot of shrine activity. I've killed more sharks than most. None of that is even outside of my day to day sessions.

    I don't take it as a personal attack at all. I welcome being challenged, that's why I post on the forums where people can challenge what I say or do.

    I have approached Captaincy exactly how they originally intended it, to tell a story through activity. I do what I like to do and I don't do anything that isn't compatible with how I enjoy playing. If the warchest comms required HG activity or fotds or a bunch of alliance activity I wouldn't have done it.

  • Honestly, though they should just be a reward for the SoSS and bottle quested shrines/ treasuries. People would actually do SoSS more often if that were the case and they would get their breath of the sea commendations as well.

    But as usual, rare has a pipeline of features that takes months or more to (lukewarm) release and then afterwards get almost no updates because that’s just how it works.

    Soon we’ll have all these new toys in season 13 with lots of feedback from players and then the minimal set of tweaks to update them so that they’re just good enough. Never great :|

  • @loch1907 said in My Miserable Hunt for Horns of Fair Winds:

    @burnbacon I jump off at every shipwreck I pass during my play sessions. I have still not found a single Horn this whole season. So the only way to get this commendation is to grind for it.

    Update. Nearing end of Season and I'm yet to find a single horn. As much as I would love to complete the commendation of 100 (still at 0)! I don't think making them more common is the way to go because (from what I've seen on Streams) it is quite OP.

  • Im on tier 4 with 31 horns found and we dive in and out with sometimes just going though all of them. We only go to certain ones as others never have the conch in it. We go to embrace, tribute, and treasurys. If we don't find them in any of these we just dive and sometimes its just embrace and tribute then dive, its honestly a terrible grind but afyer im done with this gring they better not increase how many is in a server as of right now its only one. Not 4 like the trailer had when they were having fun under the water.

  • I know that feel. I'm at 25 or so. I stopped looking. I find em when I find em now. Soon as I fo find one I tush to sell it so I don't loose it to another pirate.

  • @dabigdirty88 said in My Miserable Hunt for Horns of Fair Winds:

    I know that feel. I'm at 25 or so. I stopped looking. I find em when I find em now. Soon as I fo find one I tush to sell it so I don't loose it to another pirate.

    They've adjusted the spawnrate of the Horn in the latest patch.

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