Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?

  • Where are official podcasts?
    Where is season 13 deep dive video?
    I feel like something has changed. We're stuck with all the issues alone :(

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  • @hegemon3 they might be a bit afraid since next update its gonna kill the game...the beggining of the end!sad

  • They're not obligated but it would be very nice if they shared some of their current priorities as they shift. Many of the bigger rumblings in the community go unanswered for months, and it's a waiting game to see if any of it will get adressed in the next seasons, or in some rare cases maybe a patch between seasons. They wouldn't even really have to give a timeframe since those are hard to give, but they could for example say ''we read your feedback on X issue and it is high priority to adress'' or in the other direction, ''X issue is lower priority so please keep that in mind''.

    At least they'd confirm awareness with it and calm things down on certain feedback fronts that are often posted about repeatedly. People can adjust their expectations and the way they play the game.

  • @i-instinct-i347

    Season 13 is the first Season where Sea of Thieves didn't receive a player spike like every other season has, (It's been on a decline for 4 months now).
    There's more important issues at stake here. Pumping ''cool seasonal content'' isn't enough to bring players interest back when you know...

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  • @hefty-henri sagte in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    [...] but they could for example say ''we read your feedback on X issue and it is high priority to adress''
    or in the other direction, ''X issue is lower priority so please keep that in mind''.

    I would enjoy it very much, if they did it like this.

    At least they'd confirm awareness with it and calm things down on certain feedback fronts that are often posted about repeatedly.

    +1

  • @ix-indi-xi said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347

    Season 13 is the first Season where Sea of Thieves didn't receive a player spike like every other season has, (It's been on a decline for 4 months now).
    There's more important issues at stake here. Pumping ''cool seasonal content'' isn't enough to bring players interest back when you know...

    A cheater can yellowbeard your account, the newest cheat on the market... I've seen people who are a bit known in the community, just not want to take that risk and leave the game for now because of it.
    Especially with a track record of false irreversible bans from RARE in the past.

    I would like clarification on this.
    Is the yellowbeard thing confirmed or still speculative?
    Id feel if it was confirmed we would see way more yellowbeards.

  • @papatankers2041 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @ix-indi-xi said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347

    Season 13 is the first Season where Sea of Thieves didn't receive a player spike like every other season has, (It's been on a decline for 4 months now).
    There's more important issues at stake here. Pumping ''cool seasonal content'' isn't enough to bring players interest back when you know...

    A cheater can yellowbeard your account, the newest cheat on the market... I've seen people who are a bit known in the community, just not want to take that risk and leave the game for now because of it.
    Especially with a track record of false irreversible bans from RARE in the past.

    I would like clarification on this.
    Is the yellowbeard thing confirmed or still speculative?
    Id feel if it was confirmed we would see way more yellowbeards.

    Not sure if I believe it, because the cheaters are exploiting the game servers and it's not the game servers that control bans (or at least they shouldn't be). That would have to be a level up from the game servers at least, if not more, where the account data is stored.

    I don't think the game servers themselves should be able to issue bans, and if they can that's a huge security issue. If it is true, the way to do this is probably being kept as a closely guarded secret because it wouldn't take long for some rando (or a few) to just start yellowbearding everyone they come across if it was common knowledge.

    The other possibility is that they are doing something which triggers an automatic yellowbeard in the anticheat at the server end somehow, which can be triggered on non-cheater accounts. It could even be a side effect of interacting with a cheating player, like if they move you around or do something that the server thinks is you cheating.

    EDIT: Just read the state of play and it seems like it was a vulnerability in support and not from the game?

  • @papatankers2041

    Yes, confirmed and acknowledged by Rare as a vulnerability that has since been patched.

  • @strangeness said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @papatankers2041

    Yes, confirmed and acknowledged by Rare as a vulnerability that has since been patched.

    Thank goodness for that.

  • all of this happening its because of PC´s...mixing Pc´s and consoles always was a bad idea,and there you go the result...tons of cheaters on aimbots and wallhack,steam account created just for hacks,games dying because of cheaters...10 years you barelly see cheaters,Pc´s didnt crossplay with consoles,there was no chronus or xim apex (PC cheating tools,since they on console do nothing or almost nothing)..nowadays its just disgusting xbox!phill spencer found another way to sink xbox even more!wont pay for this anymore!

  • @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    all of this happening its because of PC´s...mixing Pc´s and consoles always was a bad idea,and there you go the result...tons of cheaters on aimbots and wallhack,steam account created just for hacks,games dying because of cheaters...10 years you barelly see cheaters,Pc´s didnt crossplay with consoles,there was no chronus or xim apex (PC cheating tools,since they on console do nothing or almost nothing)..nowadays its just disgusting xbox!phill spencer found another way to sink xbox even more!wont pay for this anymore!

    You do realise you can opt-out of crossplay and get a preference of console-only servers, right? Yes, it's only a preference, but if you have enough players on console at any given time, you don't need to worry about it.

    The vast majority of PC players are not [third party software] cheaters - some of us are chill enough to even play with a controller and be at a disadvantage against KBM, because we cannot opt-out. It's a very tiny amount of players that are causing issues. It seems like a lot more because they are able to target specific players (a lot of the time it's streamers and content creators) and that gets more attention. Which is what they want. They have a list and they hunt specifically for certain players.

    I recently did my level 100 Servants grind in Hourglass. I did 243 fights in 3 weeks. I won 55% of them (again, controller on crossplay). I met 1 confirmed cheater using software tools, who teleported to my boat before I surfaced. But I met far, far more cheaters using in-game exploits that can be done on any platform.

    And to get to the whole "10 years you barely see any cheaters" thing... I'm in my 40s, I played on consoles for decades (I only built my first gaming PC in 2018 and made the switch). I played in CoD lobbies in the 2000s and 2010s on Xbox consoles before crossplay, they were full of cheaters. It was the same in Battlefield, and every other shooter or competitive game. So that claim is absolute hogwash.

  • I would say they're communicating.... check out this forum post from sonicbob 2 days ago: https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/173314/commitment-to-player-safety-state-of-play

  • They’re busy with creating stuff for the Pirate Emporium.

  • @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    all of this happening its because of PC´s...mixing Pc´s and consoles always was a bad idea,and there you go the result...tons of cheaters on aimbots and wallhack,steam account created just for hacks,games dying because of cheaters...10 years you barelly see cheaters,Pc´s didnt crossplay with consoles,there was no chronus or xim apex (PC cheating tools,since they on console do nothing or almost nothing)..nowadays its just disgusting xbox!phill spencer found another way to sink xbox even more!wont pay for this anymore!

    You do realise you can opt-out of crossplay and get a preference of console-only servers, right? Yes, it's only a preference, but if you have enough players on console at any given time, you don't need to worry about it.

    The vast majority of PC players are not [third party software] cheaters - some of us are chill enough to even play with a controller and be at a disadvantage against KBM, because we cannot opt-out. It's a very tiny amount of players that are causing issues. It seems like a lot more because they are able to target specific players (a lot of the time it's streamers and content creators) and that gets more attention. Which is what they want. They have a list and they hunt specifically for certain players.

    I recently did my level 100 Servants grind in Hourglass. I did 243 fights in 3 weeks. I won 55% of them (again, controller on crossplay). I met 1 confirmed cheater using software tools, who teleported to my boat before I surfaced. But I met far, far more cheaters using in-game exploits that can be done on any platform.

    And to get to the whole "10 years you barely see any cheaters" thing... I'm in my 40s, I played on consoles for decades (I only built my first gaming PC in 2018 and made the switch). I played in CoD lobbies in the 2000s and 2010s on Xbox consoles before crossplay, they were full of cheaters. It was the same in Battlefield, and every other shooter or competitive game. So that claim is absolute hogwash.

    literally you dont know what you talking about...Xbox its forced crossplay network by itself,(THERES NO ONLY CONSOLE SERVERS) this means we are forced to play with PCs on xbox network even if we dont want to...cheating been way worst since PCS are added to crossplay,im in my 40´s aswell play for more than 25 years playstation xbox,PC,and the cheating problem we cant compare with 10 years ago...it was very toxic 10 years ago??yes very toxic coms but cheaters???Crossplay????never been has bad has its today...so dont come with "thingy" and bs that what you know i know it aswell...you could jump on any game 10 years ago you didnt see cheaters like today or exploiting like today..9k hours on sot,nothing you can say about its gonna change my opinion on this game or crossplay money making cheating market has today his!go call of duty or any other game disable the crossplay option and tell me how many PC players with crossplay turned of you get??TONS,all on xbox network...i can prove it any day!let me know...all this cheating problem we have today its NOT surelly caused by consoles...consoles can cheat but not has good or even comparable to a PC..i just been playing for 2 hours sot on a really laggy server,just literally begging to be refreshed,and im paying for this,and everyday the game is literally ping wise "garbage"i wonder why...to make a decent Pc in my country you need a big amount of cash,and i have other priorities,but i will get one eventually...until then...i just go playstation now! btw,countless steam account with 0 gamerscore hacking all over on call of duty,sea of thieves any other game??need proof of that??just go to my profile on xbox...guys with 116k gamerscore clearlly wallhacking,straight cheaters,reaported countless times and hacking like no tomorow..you have a good example on SOT...theb!you say cheating its a tiny problem on xbox...LOL enough said!took me less than a week to get each curse..nowadays i dont even try,last time i was there,got 2 cheaters on snipers,clear aimbots,no matter what you do they literally hit every single shot from their ship,we been batling and trying to kill these dudes for 40 minutes and we eventually sink because of megs and skelly ships into the HG and we couldnt handle all the stuff at same time...this dudes literally raised the sail and sink us just aimboting...no skill,pure aimbots...both on steam..reported,and still playing..HG for me its unplayable,from ridiculous amounts of lag,to memory loss servers and cheaters..its just a mess..1gb dw 500mb upload 0 ping..i play to have fun not to get stressed..

  • @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    literally you dont know what you talking about...Xbox its forced crossplay network by itself,(THERES NO ONLY CONSOLE SERVERS) this means we are forced to play with PCs on xbox network even if we dont want to...

    I suggest you have a good look through the settings because you literally don't know what you're talking about.

    I gave up reading the rest, because with "9K hours", you'd think you'd at least know about the crossplay preference.

  • @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    literally you dont know what you talking about...Xbox its forced crossplay network by itself,(THERES NO ONLY CONSOLE SERVERS) this means we are forced to play with PCs on xbox network even if we dont want to...

    I suggest you have a good look through the settings because you literally don't know what you're talking about.

    I gave up reading the rest, because with "9K hours", you'd think you'd at least know about the crossplay preference.

    theres no crossplay preference inside xbox network..if you a pc on xbox im forced to play with you...only thing you got is controller preference...that doesnt put easy cheats away from pc´s...option out you still get PC´s inside xbox network...i know the crossplay opt long time...

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  • @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    literally you dont know what you talking about...Xbox its forced crossplay network by itself,(THERES NO ONLY CONSOLE SERVERS) this means we are forced to play with PCs on xbox network even if we dont want to...

    I suggest you have a good look through the settings because you literally don't know what you're talking about.

    I gave up reading the rest, because with "9K hours", you'd think you'd at least know about the crossplay preference.

    theres no crossplay preference inside xbox network..if you a pc on xbox im forced to play with you...only thing you got is controller preference.

    The controller preference is ONLY for consoles. If you select it, you will get preference for controller-only console servers. The only time it's not an option is if you are using keyboard and mouse on console.

  • @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    literally you dont know what you talking about...Xbox its forced crossplay network by itself,(THERES NO ONLY CONSOLE SERVERS) this means we are forced to play with PCs on xbox network even if we dont want to...

    I suggest you have a good look through the settings because you literally don't know what you're talking about.

    I gave up reading the rest, because with "9K hours", you'd think you'd at least know about the crossplay preference.

    theres no crossplay preference inside xbox network..if you a pc on xbox im forced to play with you...only thing you got is controller preference.

    The controller preference is ONLY for consoles. If you select it, you will get preference for controller-only console servers. The only time it's not an option is if you are using keyboard and mouse on console.

    youll get Pc´s with controlers aswelll..not only consoles...i have friends on Pc with controllers playing with me on "only console" and controller servers...

  • Console/controller was introduced because the xbox 1 wasn't keeping up with the majority of pc's as far as performance, and the distinct advantages m/kb has.

    If you turn on C/C preferred, as long as there are enough consoles playing, there's no pc players. (There's always plenty of console players) The m/kb console may sneak in occasionally still tho lol.

    My kid literally has to turn this option off when he wants to play with his pc buddies.

    Anywho ..... big long message posted a couple days ago.

  • @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    youll get Pc´s with controlers aswelll..not only consoles...i have friends on Pc with controllers playing with me on "only console" and controller servers...

    Nope. That's not how it works. If I try to join people opted out, even when I use a controller on PC, I will get an error. I literally do not have an option to opt for controller only in my settings.

  • @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    youll get Pc´s with controlers aswelll..not only consoles...i have friends on Pc with controllers playing with me on "only console" and controller servers...

    Nope. That's not how it works. If I try to join people opted out, even when I use a controller on PC, I will get an error. I literally do not have an option to opt for controller only in my settings.

    countless pll that i get on only console servers playing on a Pc on controllers...you might have a problem then..idk,but i play with pc´s with controllers on console and controller only its true...you can play with me and see it yourself..

  • @i-instinct-i347

    I suggest you double check the option is enabled because that's not how it works.

  • @realstyli already did and this is how it works...if you have a controller on your pc,plug it and go controllers only....thats why its a CROssplay network...ask rare...controllers are prefference not plataform..with or without crossplay on you might pc with controllers!!

  • @i-instinct-i347

    The option is literally "Prefer Console Players with Controllers".

    Matchmaking settings don't appear in the PC version of the game at all, regardless of whether you have a controller connected or not.

    The only way someone on PC can join you if you have that selected is if they are streaming the game via XCloud and using a controller, as that's running on virtual consoles. In which case, the player cannot do anything to interfere with client.

  • @i-instinct-i347 Then they are cheating and should be reported.

    If you believe a player has been toxic in the game or suspect foul-play, you can report them to Xbox Live here. You can also submit a support ticket via Rare Player Support.

  • @i-instinct-i347
    Sorry to tell you this mate, but you're wrong on how the console preference setting works. @RealStyli is correct.

  • @look-behind-you said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347 Then they are cheating and should be reported.

    If you believe a player has been toxic in the game or suspect foul-play, you can report them to Xbox Live here. You can also submit a support ticket via Rare Play

    ive done it before...blantant cheaters cheating,many times,they still hacking till this day...so i dont waste my time anymore reporting cheaters to rare...next time i come with PC´s on console only servers i come here and report them to you!so what you saying is any PC that is on CONSOLE servers are cheaters???if i plug a controller and go only controller servers i cant play??so why im getting pc´s on only console servers??'thats its cheating right???getting PC´s on only console???i have a big list for you then...most of them you must have them on the emails ive sent your team reporting cheaters..steam players on console only servers..reported a few...why they are not banned?they Pc´s on console servers...

  • @strangeness said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347
    Sorry to tell you this mate, but you're wrong on how the console preference setting works. @RealStyli is correct.

    cant be...i get pc´s all the time with crossplay off on options...i prove it anytime!

  • @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347

    The option is literally "Prefer Console Players with Controllers".

    Matchmaking settings don't appear in the PC version of the game at all, regardless of whether you have a controller connected or not.

    The only way someone on PC can join you if you have that selected is if they are streaming the game via XCloud and using a controller, as that's running on virtual consoles. In which case, the player cannot do anything to interfere with client.

    hmmm....still saying i have ppl on my friends list on pc joining with controller...i have literally no need to lie...one of things that put me out of xbox was this..i dont have a pc to test it right now,but i will tomorow..

  • @realstyli said in Why Rare isn't communicating with us anymore?:

    @i-instinct-i347

    The option is literally "Prefer Console Players with Controllers".

    Matchmaking settings don't appear in the PC version of the game at all, regardless of whether you have a controller connected or not.

    The only way someone on PC can join you if you have that selected is if they are streaming the game via XCloud and using a controller, as that's running on virtual consoles. In which case, the player cannot do anything to interfere with client.

    you forgot to say,xim apex,chronus,titan...many other tools that make your Pc identify like a console...those ones can do whatever they want on "only console servers"...thats why i might see dozens of them every week and these tools are always or almost always out of stock...

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