Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations

  • At this point, there is more time-limited content than unlockable and buyable content, excluding the Pirate Emporium. It's a shame. Why would I care that you've done a short dig quest or watched Twitch 6 years ago? It's not reflective of your skill or anything you've accomplished, all it means is you were there at the right time in the right place. In most cases, I am better at the game than those players who flex their og reaper cosmetics because I've simply played much more than them and at a more consistent rate.
    The FOMO policy has NO place in a $40 AAA game, no one is more deserving of cosmetics than others; I've played and supported the game more than most people who own 6 years old time-limited content I wasn't there to obtain, they are not privileged "early supporters". You support the game as much as anyone else at any time by purchasing it and making microtransactions.

    To be completely fair, everything should be available in the shops through commendation unlocks since there are remnants and commendations that are similar enough to the og events, but at the very least, these items should be guaranteed to come back for an event that occurs once a year.
    "But I'd rather have new items than reusing old ones" oh, you already own items we don't have... well that's cool... and really selfish of you. The Marauder's Medley event did it well, so it can be done again: introduce new content as the first reward, and reintroduce old content as further rewards so that people who already own these don't have to go through the entire event while other players do if they want the items. Even better to not waste game storage in fear of most people not clearing the event: have Larinna sell the old content for doubloons during the time of these events. The only advantage people who played earlier should get is to not have to pay as much (it would still be unfair but it adds incentive to play to get doubloons and replayability to the game).
    Giving a wider audience access to more cosmetics that already exist and are just sitting in the game files taking storage space for the most part would allow for more creativity and variety on the seas, don't we all want that?

    I want the Wailing Barnacle ship set over anything in the entire game, please give it back. I will set the seas on fire for it. No one who has it even uses it beside the wheel and capstan, so you don't ever see it anywhere.

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  • I agree completely. Though I imagine a lot of people won't. Make the challenges harder than they originally were if needed. Even if the content is rotated in and out, rather than be lost forever. Let's say for example "Mercenary March", In March have a series of voyages to unlock the mercenary set. Make it challenging. If someone misses out, they can wait until next year, rather than it being gone forever. I'm sure someone could come up with better ideas than me

    The adventures could be repackaged into tall tales. The assets presumably all still exist. There would be need to be adjustments obviously as anything with a community decision won't work, among other things. Some things might need to be done in a Monkey Island like seperate world. Let people experience the story as much as they can, even if it's not quite perfect.

    Another example might be the Hoarders Hunt. The outside game stuff wasn't really for me, but I loved the in game voyage. The in game voyages would be a perfect fit in the special voyages section (similar to the Sunken Kingdom curse voyage).

  • This game is an adventure sandbox, which means most of the memories you get from the game are part of those encounters/experiences. With that being said, many OG cosmetics have that meaning to players. They symbolize those memories. Adding them now for everyone else would break that feeling. This game has been out for a long time and many OG players deserve to have those memories even if they don't wear them.

    I understand that you would want certain cosmetics but this is not about the FOMO. Look at it as a reward for those players that enjoyed the game since the beggining, no matter what critics said.

  • What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

  • @capt-pilotes said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    This game is an adventure sandbox, which means most of the memories you get from the game are part of those encounters/experiences. With that being said, many OG cosmetics have that meaning to players. They symbolize those memories. Adding them now for everyone else would break that feeling. This game has been out for a long time and many OG players deserve to have those memories even if they don't wear them.

    I understand that you would want certain cosmetics but this is not about the FOMO. Look at it as a reward for those players that enjoyed the game since the beggining, no matter what critics said.

    No one deserves rewards more than others. You don't get an advantage just because you started playing earlier. Your memories are yours, not mine, I don't care that you've played before me, that doesn't give you the right to gatekeep cosmetic content, even more so if you don't use them.

    I'm sorry but I don't understand why people having memories with the game should get in the way of people having access to customisability, it's not like it will delete memories from people's mind or anything.
    People who were there for og events still got to play through something new players won't get to experience again and allowing for a wider audience to get their hands on cosmetics that were available then won't change it, especially if it's in a time-limited shop or a completely different event.

  • @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Try posting again but this time around, contribute to the discussion, thank you.
    It's not about me, it's about the FOMO policy as a whole. There are rare time-limited items that I own, don't use and won't ever use. I'd be happy to see them be used by people who want them rather than them just sitting in my chest as they do for countless others.
    I've paid for the game and purchased micro-transactions to enjoy the game, not to get frustrated and jealous of others being privileged because unlike me, they had a device that could run the game at the time. I can't be the only one.

    But otherwise, of course I want what I missed. I'm a completionist and I used money into a game I don't get to fully enjoy.

  • @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

  • 2 major things are different about SoT fomo as of this season.

    It's getting more expensive for the consumer and it's getting worse for the organic experience.

    The streamer campaigns are great for them but it costs more for the consumer. It's not even a straight across exchange. It's doing something they might not even wanna do, on a platform they might not even participate on, to carry streamers for a reward for the game they play. Drops are WAY better than that because they don't cost money.

    The find-a-partner/other person in the network campaign isn't really good for anyone other than power flexers. This game is full of a mix of actual meta-gaming and false accusations by streamers. Creating an event that literally creates more of that isn't good for the consumer or even for partners.

    They've brought back some old items but they have been testing the water on worse designs of delivering fomo.

    That's the real concern for the average consumer, imo. It's a live service game, they are always gonna create some fomo.

  • @wolfmanbush said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    2 major things are different about SoT fomo as of this season.

    It's getting more expensive for the consumer and it's getting worse for the organic experience.

    The streamer campaigns are great for them but it costs more for the consumer. It's not even a straight across exchange. It's doing something they might not even wanna do, on a platform they might not even participate on, to carry streamers for a reward for the game they play. Drops are WAY better than that.

    The find-a-partner/other person in the network campaign isn't really good for anyone other than power flexers. This game is full of a mix of actual meta-gaming and false accusations by streamers. Creating an event that literally creates more of that isn't good for the consumer or even for partners.

    They've brought back some old items but they have been testing the water on worse designs of delivering fomo.

    That's the real concern for the average consumer, imo. It's a live service game, they are always gonna create some fomo.

    I am aware that live service events are an important part of the game, and that's why I think for some items, there should be reocurring events where they are publicly known to be guaranteed to come back along with new things rather than one-time events where future players will never get to obtain old items. I do believe a lot of the old time-limited items should straight up come back to the shops though, like Wailing Barnacle for doubloons and unlocked through Hoarder of Barnacled Gold, Rising Morningstar for doubloons unlocked through the Morningstar-related tall tales... that just makes sense, people need to earn them.
    That of course would still create FOMO, but a much less destructive and much more fair one.

  • @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    Agree to disagree.

    Entitlement would be to disallow others to also earn the cosmetics in some other way otherwise the achievement is meaningless as it doesn't represent the game as a whole complete package. I do not care that I do not have the "special" cosmetics for some events I do, however have others that can not be obtained now and find that wrong.

    I find the not available cosmetics irrelevant regardless as they are not achievable in the current game and as such have no importance nor meaning to the game.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    I have the Wailing Barnacle shipset/outfit, etc. and just like OP said, I can show you on one hand how many times I've displayed it. With that said, I don't see why they can't make cosmetic sets have their own holiday feature so newer players can also acquire them. Watching Twitch for an hour, isn't difficult to do I can assure you, and me sailing around sporting the shipset doesn't mean/make me a God at pvp. Why can't other players earn what I already have, don't use, and took me nothing to get? By lighting another candle, your candle doesn't dim. At the very least give them a way to earn it, even if it's only available once a year. WoW does the same thing with rare mounts/pets, and those who really want those items wait that long to try again, but at least they have an opportunity. This arbitrary gate-keep isn't right, as it's creating attention around the FOMO instead of players actually enjoying the game. It's as if they're doing it on purpose for that exact reason.... "Better buy now, because it's the only chance you'll get-- forever."

  • @europa4033 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    I have the Wailing Barnacle shipset/outfit, etc. and just like OP said, I can show you on one hand how many times I've displayed it. With that said, I don't see why they can't make cosmetic sets have their own holiday feature so newer players can also acquire them. Watching Twitch for an hour, isn't difficult to do I can assure you, and me sailing around sporting the shipset doesn't mean/make me a God at pvp. Why can't other players earn what I already have, don't use, and took me nothing to get? By lighting another candle, your candle doesn't dim. At the very least give them a way to earn it, even if it's only available once a year. WoW does the same thing with rare mounts/pets, and those who really want those items wait that long to try again, but at least they have an opportunity. This arbitrary gate-keep isn't right, as it's creating attention around the FOMO instead of players actually enjoying the game. It's as if they're doing it on purpose for that exact reason.... "Better buy now, because it's the only chance you'll get-- forever."

    Exactly!

    I feel this diminishes the game as a whole.

  • @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    Agree to disagree.

    Entitlement would be to disallow others to also earn the cosmetics in some other way otherwise the achievement is meaningless as it doesn't represent the game as a whole complete package. I do not care that I do not have the "special" cosmetics for some events I do, however have others that can not be obtained now and find that wrong.

    I find the not available cosmetics irrelevant regardless as they are not achievable in the current game and as such have no importance nor meaning to the game.

    LOL, someone needs an education. Here is the definition (Mirriam Webster) which is NOTHING like what you claim it means (i.E disallowing others).

    Entitlement: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges

    You didn't earn them, you do not deserve them and acting entitled doesn't change that - just shows envy. It just makes you and others look bad, just as your gaslighting and downplaying the importance to those of us who did put in the time and effort to earn them. If they are so irrelevant to you & without meaning, you should bow out of this argument already since you don't have a dog in the fight. They have meaning and importance for those of us who did put in the effort.

  • @mermaid-aze

    Let's put aside the term "gate-keeping." People can have opinions without using derogatory ad-hominem attacks. For every "gate-keeper" there is the opposite "entitled" attack. It doesn't argue the sides on their merits.

    With that put out there, I am on the side of limited cosmetics. I do NOT have some of the wailing barnacle items. Some were attached to bilge-rat adventures that ran for a very short window during year 1, and as a middle-aged man with familial commitments during the summer, I couldn't play and couldn't buy later. Similarly, and to repeat, I am a middle-aged man. Twitch is the LEAST useful use of my time. I miss out on most twitch drops.

    Point here isn't what I have or don't have (I can't gatekeep something I don't have) or even my opinion on particular cosmetics. As a completionist, it stings. But I wouldn't change it.

    Those that write that cosmetics are tied to memories are exactly right. I still have original Hasbro swar wars figures that bring fond memories of my childhood. Most have long since been out of production. They weren't even billed as "limited time" but have simply had their run and quit selling well. Would I complain is Hasbro brought them back? Nah. But would I write in a Hasbro forum saying they NEED to bring some item back or another because I, as a fan, DESERVE to own it? That's insane.

    Limited time items are also common and heavily used in marketing. It seems like every major movie going back at least 30 years has limited time items associated to their theatrical release. I got a free limited-time comic going to the first Michael Keaton/Tim Burton batman movie. And yes, looking at that comic brings back a memory of that theater experience. The comic is not canon with the DC comic universe. It has no value outside of collectors and those who visited. And releasing it wide now becuase a fan "wants" it devalues the experience AND the collectible nature.

    Most recently, Wicked has a limited-time popcorn bucket in many theaters. Limited time items are NORMAL for "experiences" such as a theater (live or cinema), theme park (plenty of limited time items that, even on later visits, are gone), sporting events, or music concerts, and plenty more. They sell BECAUSE the commemorate specific moments in time.

    The game is no different. It is a living world. There was a time when skelly fleets didn't roam the waters. Where the burning blade wasn't a thing. It is perfectly reasonable for a live-service game to want their world to have "experiences" just like attending a music concert is different than buying a song on Apple Music. And if they associate limited time cosmetics to those events, that is a 100% valid artistic choice to memorialize those specific experiences. No player today, collecting mermaid statues, has the "memory" of that bilge rat adventure and what it was like when they were new, an entire server would be hunting them, and did so ONLY for the cosmetics (because they DIDN'T DROP GEMS BACK THEN!) It was, quite literally, an in-game experience that no new player can fully appreciate, and if an OG player has memories that have cosmetics attached, so be it.

  • @dlchief58 I am sorry if you did understand your own statements. I was calling into question anyone needing special treatment. I don't envy anything this game has as it is a game only. If you feel you are entitled to anything that is on you .

  • @sairdontis4317 Earned and deserved not entitled, learn the difference.

  • @dlchief58 Earned and deserved can be seen also as subjective. I also know the difference. I do not see wanting others to have the ability to earn items in a multiplayer game the same as others regardless of time of playing to be entitlement . Items do not make one special.

  • @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 Earned and deserved can be seen also as subjective. I also know the difference. I do not see wanting others to have the ability to earn items in a multiplayer game the same as others regardless of time of playing to be entitlement . Items do not make one special.

    They don't make one special (one of the few things you said that was correct), but they do show and celebrate the events we did which were special. Again, learn the difference. Also nothing subjective about "earned & deserved", factual statement about the situation that your gaslighting does nothing to diminish. Was there for certain events, did the requirements thus EARNED them as a DESERVED award. Pretty cut & dried there bub.

    Finally, people don't need you white-knighting for them. Let them speak for themselves as you have as much as admitted you don't have a dog in the fight, referring to such cosmetics as "irrelevant" & " meaningless" to you.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    No, they are not. I don't want a dead seagull-coloured ship set, I want the blue fish ship set. They are completely different. So what if I didn't participate in an event? Consider this: not everyone has the ability to get themselves an Xbox console, PS5 or a computer that can run Sea of Thieves on-demand. This was the case for me. A friend of mine wanted me to get the game with him on day one, and I simply couldn't, because I couldn't afford a performant "gaming computer" or an expensive gaming console. Locking cosmetics behind one-time events when everyone's paid as much for the same game is completely unfair. "Envy and jealousy on display" is the reason why these shouldn't be a thing in the first place. My point is FOMO produces envy and jealousy because one-time-limited content gives more to privileged players for no reason, and that is unacceptable. Everyone deserves equal chances at getting anything in the game.
    You would still participate in a new event where old items are brought back as rewards, would that not make it fair?

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 Earned and deserved can be seen also as subjective. I also know the difference. I do not see wanting others to have the ability to earn items in a multiplayer game the same as others regardless of time of playing to be entitlement . Items do not make one special.

    They don't make one special (one of the few things you said that was correct), but they do show and celebrate the events we did which were special. Again, learn the difference. Also nothing subjective about "earned & deserved", factual statement about the situation that your gaslighting does nothing to diminish. Was there for certain events, did the requirements thus EARNED them as a DESERVED award. Pretty cut & dried there bub.

    Finally, people don't need you white-knighting for them. Let them speak for themselves as you have as much as admitted you don't have a dog in the fight, referring to such cosmetics as "irrelevant" & " meaningless" to you.

    I do not agree with your opinion on exclusivity and it being necessary for the enjoyment of this game.

    Also, others being allow to obtain items in this game doesn't take from you in any way as you still will retain the items you have regardless on whether other obtain them as well. Also I did say I have exclusive event items, but I do not need them as a badge of importance to enjoy this game so I do have "a dog in this "fight" " though that is also unnecessary as a requirement for others to be allowed have an opinion on this subject as we do not get a say in that matter.

    Also, no gaslighting was used it was merely a statement of fact.

  • @strangeness said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @mermaid-aze

    Let's put aside the term "gate-keeping." People can have opinions without using derogatory ad-hominem attacks. For every "gate-keeper" there is the opposite "entitled" attack. It doesn't argue the sides on their merits.

    With that put out there, I am on the side of limited cosmetics. I do NOT have some of the wailing barnacle items. Some were attached to bilge-rat adventures that ran for a very short window during year 1, and as a middle-aged man with familial commitments during the summer, I couldn't play and couldn't buy later. Similarly, and to repeat, I am a middle-aged man. Twitch is the LEAST useful use of my time. I miss out on most twitch drops.

    Point here isn't what I have or don't have (I can't gatekeep something I don't have) or even my opinion on particular cosmetics. As a completionist, it stings. But I wouldn't change it.

    Those that write that cosmetics are tied to memories are exactly right. I still have original Hasbro swar wars figures that bring fond memories of my childhood. Most have long since been out of production. They weren't even billed as "limited time" but have simply had their run and quit selling well. Would I complain is Hasbro brought them back? Nah. But would I write in a Hasbro forum saying they NEED to bring some item back or another because I, as a fan, DESERVE to own it? That's insane.

    Limited time items are also common and heavily used in marketing. It seems like every major movie going back at least 30 years has limited time items associated to their theatrical release. I got a free limited-time comic going to the first Michael Keaton/Tim Burton batman movie. And yes, looking at that comic brings back a memory of that theater experience. The comic is not canon with the DC comic universe. It has no value outside of collectors and those who visited. And releasing it wide now becuase a fan "wants" it devalues the experience AND the collectible nature.

    Most recently, Wicked has a limited-time popcorn bucket in many theaters. Limited time items are NORMAL for "experiences" such as a theater (live or cinema), theme park (plenty of limited time items that, even on later visits, are gone), sporting events, or music concerts, and plenty more. They sell BECAUSE the commemorate specific moments in time.

    That is not something you can compare. These items you mention, you have paid for by themselves with nothing more. In SoT, you buy the full video game and don't get to have all of it even though you've paid as much as others who do have the luxury to own all of it.

  • @mermaid-aze said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    No, they are not. I don't want a dead seagull-coloured ship set, I want the blue fish ship set. They are completely different. So what if I didn't participate in an event? Consider this: not everyone has the ability to get themselves an Xbox console, PS5 or a computer that can run Sea of Thieves on-demand. This was the case for me. A friend of mine wanted me to get the game with him on day one, and I simply couldn't, because I couldn't afford a performant "gaming computer" or an expensive gaming console. Locking cosmetics behind one-time events when everyone's paid as much for the same game is completely unfair. "Envy and jealousy on display" is the reason why these shouldn't be a thing in the first place. My point is FOMO produces envy and jealousy because one-time-limited content gives more to privileged players for no reason, and that is unacceptable. Everyone deserves equal chances at getting anything in the game.
    You would still participate in a new event where old items are brought back as rewards, would that not make it fair?

    You just explained your whole motivation - envy & jealousy, the roots of feelings of entitlement. You only make your position worse by rejecting the fair compromise RARE made with recolors of said items. Just because these items exist does not mean you deserve them, as they were always advertised as limited and confirmed later by RARE their intent to keep them that way out of respect for those of us who did earn them when available. Deal with it.

    I've missed a few of these cosmetics as well, and it doesn't bother me one bit because I am a mature adult. You are not entitled to each & every cosmetic the game has ever offered, let limited release items remain that way retaining their special status for those who've been here since the first year. It is a slap in the face to people who earned limited release items that were advertised as such to then lose that special status because some Johnny come lately thinks they deserve them, despite not earning them during the event for whatever reason. And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims.

  • The original PL curse should be available in a non pvp setting. Seeing as you didn't have to pvp to get it originally.

  • @dlchief58
    "And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims."

    Cool then Rare should open up all cosmetics to all players all the time to earn. Problem solved. Thank you for the understanding.

  • @mermaid-aze said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @strangeness said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @mermaid-aze

    Let's put aside the term "gate-keeping." People can have opinions without using derogatory ad-hominem attacks. For every "gate-keeper" there is the opposite "entitled" attack. It doesn't argue the sides on their merits.

    With that put out there, I am on the side of limited cosmetics. I do NOT have some of the wailing barnacle items. Some were attached to bilge-rat adventures that ran for a very short window during year 1, and as a middle-aged man with familial commitments during the summer, I couldn't play and couldn't buy later. Similarly, and to repeat, I am a middle-aged man. Twitch is the LEAST useful use of my time. I miss out on most twitch drops.

    Point here isn't what I have or don't have (I can't gatekeep something I don't have) or even my opinion on particular cosmetics. As a completionist, it stings. But I wouldn't change it.

    Those that write that cosmetics are tied to memories are exactly right. I still have original Hasbro swar wars figures that bring fond memories of my childhood. Most have long since been out of production. They weren't even billed as "limited time" but have simply had their run and quit selling well. Would I complain is Hasbro brought them back? Nah. But would I write in a Hasbro forum saying they NEED to bring some item back or another because I, as a fan, DESERVE to own it? That's insane.

    Limited time items are also common and heavily used in marketing. It seems like every major movie going back at least 30 years has limited time items associated to their theatrical release. I got a free limited-time comic going to the first Michael Keaton/Tim Burton batman movie. And yes, looking at that comic brings back a memory of that theater experience. The comic is not canon with the DC comic universe. It has no value outside of collectors and those who visited. And releasing it wide now becuase a fan "wants" it devalues the experience AND the collectible nature.

    Most recently, Wicked has a limited-time popcorn bucket in many theaters. Limited time items are NORMAL for "experiences" such as a theater (live or cinema), theme park (plenty of limited time items that, even on later visits, are gone), sporting events, or music concerts, and plenty more. They sell BECAUSE the commemorate specific moments in time.

    That is not something you can compare. These items you mention, you have paid for by themselves with nothing more. In SoT, you buy the full video game and don't get to have all of it even though you've paid as much as others who do have the luxury to own all of it.

    And said items were ALWAYS advertised as being limited, reaffirmed by RARE they would remain that way out of respect for the accomplishments of those that earned them. Know what else you can't get that you used to? Arena achievements & cosmetics - so you think you deserve that too?

    And you CAN compare these cosmetics to the said items, as they were available for a specific EXPERIENCE - i.e. the EVENT to which they were tied. You just blew holes in your own argument here without realizing it.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @mermaid-aze said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    No, they are not. I don't want a dead seagull-coloured ship set, I want the blue fish ship set. They are completely different. So what if I didn't participate in an event? Consider this: not everyone has the ability to get themselves an Xbox console, PS5 or a computer that can run Sea of Thieves on-demand. This was the case for me. A friend of mine wanted me to get the game with him on day one, and I simply couldn't, because I couldn't afford a performant "gaming computer" or an expensive gaming console. Locking cosmetics behind one-time events when everyone's paid as much for the same game is completely unfair. "Envy and jealousy on display" is the reason why these shouldn't be a thing in the first place. My point is FOMO produces envy and jealousy because one-time-limited content gives more to privileged players for no reason, and that is unacceptable. Everyone deserves equal chances at getting anything in the game.
    You would still participate in a new event where old items are brought back as rewards, would that not make it fair?

    You just explained your whole motivation - envy & jealousy, the roots of feelings of entitlement. You only make your position worse by rejecting the fair compromise RARE made with recolors of said items. Just because these items exist does not mean you deserve them, as they were always advertised as limited and confirmed later by RARE their intent to keep them that way out of respect for those of us who did earn them when available. Deal with it.

    I've missed a few of these cosmetics as well, and it doesn't bother me one bit because I am a mature adult. You are not entitled to each & every cosmetic the game has ever offered, let limited release items remain that way retaining their special status for those who've been here since the first year. It is a slap in the face to people who earned limited release items that were advertised as such to then lose that special status because some Johnny come lately thinks they deserve them, despite not earning them during the event for whatever reason. And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims.

    It seems you've missed my point entirely so I'll explain it another way. Do you think I would have just ignored events if I had the ability to play at all? You sound like the prime example of a privileged person defending their position of advantage against those less fortunate to have had your opportunity. Does feeling scammed and betrayed for being unfairly locked away from cosmetics I like make my point invalid or unfounded, or do you just want an excuse to protect the imaginary power you get from owning things I can't obtain? I am not asking for these items to be magically granted to everyone, I'm asking for people to get other chances at earning them.
    If jealousy and envy from people who are unfairly locked away from items is a problem, then what's your jealousy and greed for refusing people's access to them, even though they would have to earn it as much as you have?

  • @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58
    "And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims."

    Cool then Rare should open up all cosmetics to all players all the time to earn. Problem solved. Thank you for the understanding.

    [mod edit] While they do not diminish the value of the game by not being widely available (as there are hundreds of other cosmetics available, including recolors of many of the ones in question), it DOES diminish the value of the item to the player who EARNED them by giving them away for some unrelated event or purchase.

  • @th3-tater said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    The original PL curse should be available in a non pvp setting. Seeing as you didn't have to pvp to get it originally.

    I'll agree that it's always seemed weird to me that guardians would get 2 unlockable curses, but then the PL curse is technically part of the mysterious stranger set so I get why it'd have to be this way.
    While it's strange they decided to lock it behind allegiance rather than some kind of Athena's Fortune commendation, I think it's a good example of what I was saying about bringing back old cosmetics and making them harder to obtain through commendation unlocks and high purchase prices.

  • @mermaid-aze said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @mermaid-aze said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @burnbacon said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    What I’m reading.
    OP missed a time limited item(one time item) and wants it.

    Yep, and they have a valid point. There is not legitimate reason for time-gated exclusivity in a game where cosmetic rewards are the sole rewards in the game. I have seen this in many other games and have "unique" items in this and many other games and see it as nothing more than player manipulation. I personally don't see nor would care if an issue with other players having access to everything I have earned providing that they earn these items also in game and the mechanism for earning remains available forever in the game.

    Counterpoint - you were not there to do the events, thus are not deserving of the rewards because you did not participate - regardless of the reason. You and others are speaking from a place of entitlement, thinking you deserve such items even though you were not participating in the event. So not a valid point, just envy and jealousy on display.

    Recolors of these older cosmetics are fine as they still keep the OG ones special.

    No, they are not. I don't want a dead seagull-coloured ship set, I want the blue fish ship set. They are completely different. So what if I didn't participate in an event? Consider this: not everyone has the ability to get themselves an Xbox console, PS5 or a computer that can run Sea of Thieves on-demand. This was the case for me. A friend of mine wanted me to get the game with him on day one, and I simply couldn't, because I couldn't afford a performant "gaming computer" or an expensive gaming console. Locking cosmetics behind one-time events when everyone's paid as much for the same game is completely unfair. "Envy and jealousy on display" is the reason why these shouldn't be a thing in the first place. My point is FOMO produces envy and jealousy because one-time-limited content gives more to privileged players for no reason, and that is unacceptable. Everyone deserves equal chances at getting anything in the game.
    You would still participate in a new event where old items are brought back as rewards, would that not make it fair?

    You just explained your whole motivation - envy & jealousy, the roots of feelings of entitlement. You only make your position worse by rejecting the fair compromise RARE made with recolors of said items. Just because these items exist does not mean you deserve them, as they were always advertised as limited and confirmed later by RARE their intent to keep them that way out of respect for those of us who did earn them when available. Deal with it.

    I've missed a few of these cosmetics as well, and it doesn't bother me one bit because I am a mature adult. You are not entitled to each & every cosmetic the game has ever offered, let limited release items remain that way retaining their special status for those who've been here since the first year. It is a slap in the face to people who earned limited release items that were advertised as such to then lose that special status because some Johnny come lately thinks they deserve them, despite not earning them during the event for whatever reason. And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims.

    It seems you've missed my point entirely so I'll explain it another way. Do you think I would have just ignored events if I had the ability to play at all? You sound like the prime example of a privileged person defending their position of advantage against those less fortunate to have had your opportunity. Does feeling scammed and betrayed for being unfairly locked away from cosmetics I like make my point invalid or unfounded, or do you just want an excuse to protect the imaginary power you get from owning things I can't obtain? I am not asking for these items to be magically granted to everyone, I'm asking for people to get other chances at earning them.
    If jealousy and envy from people who are unfairly locked away from items is a problem, then what's your jealousy and greed for refusing people's access to them, even though they would have to earn it as much as you have?

    Reason doesn't matter - you weren't there to participate, you deserve nothing. I've missed out on more than my share of special items due to finances, but I handle it like a mature adult and don't throw hissy fits or pity parties about how I was unfairly treated.

    Scammed? Oh my, that is rich and quite a deluded take on the situation regarding skins that were ALWAYS advertised as being time limited. You weren't "unfairly" locked out so cut the victim act already. You were never promised these items & RARE has been quite clear on that subject.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58
    "And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims."

    Cool then Rare should open up all cosmetics to all players all the time to earn. Problem solved. Thank you for the understanding.

    Boy are you dense. While they do not diminish the value of the game by not being widely available (as there are hundreds of other cosmetics available, including recolors of many of the ones in question), it DOES diminish the value of the item to the player who EARNED them by giving them away for some unrelated event or purchase.

    Making others earn them as well won't diminish their value, all it will diminish is the ego you get from owning time-limited content and the pseudo-power they give you over others. Do you have so little argument to defend your point that you have to rely on aggressivity? We had been discussing peacefully until now so I hope it can remain this way.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58
    "And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims."

    Cool then Rare should open up all cosmetics to all players all the time to earn. Problem solved. Thank you for the understanding.

    [mod edit] While they do not diminish the value of the game by not being widely available (as there are hundreds of other cosmetics available, including recolors of many of the ones in question), it DOES diminish the value of the item to the player who EARNED them by giving them away for some unrelated event or purchase.

    Not dense at all just being more openminded about the subject that you seem to be too blinded by bias to be.

    OP is not asking to have anything handed to them. What they want is to have the opportunity to have all rewards in the game remain earnable in game . This is not selfish nor is it entitlement quite the opposite in fact. This is a sandbox game built around collecting cosmetic rewards while contradictorily denying the collecting (earned or otherwise) of cosmetics.

    This practice does nothing to attract new players to this game and if new players do not come then the game is in danger of being unprofitable . If the game becomes unprofitable all those "special" cosmetics go down with the ship (pun intended) with the closed game.

    Please see the forest for the trees.

  • @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    Reason doesn't matter - you weren't there to participate, you deserve nothing. I've missed out on more than my share of special items due to finances, but I handle it like a mature adult and don't throw hissy fits or pity parties about how I was unfairly treated.

    Scammed? Oh my, that is rich and quite a deluded take on the situation regarding skins that were ALWAYS advertised as being time limited. You weren't "unfairly" locked out so cut the victim act already. You were never promised these items & RARE has been quite clear on that subject.

    I am not contesting that. What I am saying is the system is flawed, outdated and that it's time for a change. Countless things have been changed about Sea of Thieves, this can be one of them.
    I am not throwing a "hissy fit" or "pity party", I am being respectful and defending my point and principles.

  • @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @sairdontis4317 said in Time-limited content: Put an end to the FOMO policy and revive interest for commendations:

    @dlchief58
    "And you not having access to these handful of cosmetics does not diminish the game's value in any way, regardless of your claims."

    Cool then Rare should open up all cosmetics to all players all the time to earn. Problem solved. Thank you for the understanding.

    Boy are you dense. While they do not diminish the value of the game by not being widely available (as there are hundreds of other cosmetics available, including recolors of many of the ones in question), it DOES diminish the value of the item to the player who EARNED them by giving them away for some unrelated event or purchase.

    Not dense at all just being more openminded about the subject that you seem to be too blinded by bias to be.

    OP is not asking to have anything handed to them. What they want is to have the opportunity to have all rewards in the game remain earnable in game . This is not selfish nor is it entitlement quite the opposite in fact. This is a sandbox game built around collecting cosmetic rewards while contradictorily denying the collecting (earned or otherwise) of cosmetics.

    This practice does nothing to attract new players to this game and if new players do not come then the game is in danger of being unprofitable . If the game becomes unprofitable all those "special" cosmetics go down with the ship (pun intended) with the closed game.

    Please see the forest for the trees.

    LOL, I doubt the handful of year 1 cosmetics remaining exclusive to those who earned them during the associated events is going to discourage new players from playing the game or affecting the population to an extent it threatens the game's health. Most of them don't even know they exist. But count on the white-knight to fear monger his argument when he has no valid reason for the exclusivity to change other than envy of others.

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