This game lacks so much, and is incredibly boring

You can have fun when you play with your friends. I’m not going to be that person and scream “BETA!”, but it’s in the stage where you have to find your fun. Fooling around with your friends, crashing your ship onto an enemy ship, finding treasure, getting drunk at the Pub, getting into battles, trolling your friends, exploring islands etc. I agree with a lot of things you said though, about how there is no point in playing. But hear me out, games like Minecraft have no point, especially after beating the boss. You kind of make your own reason to play. I have no doubt that there will be more skins, islands, weapons, instruments and maybe even maps dropped from mobs when the game launches. If there isn’t, RARE will probably update it for a few years after launch.

@whatisgey Why not? They’re both openworld “sandbox“ games and I wasn’t comparing, just stating how in Minecraft, there is no point to playing, except for what you and your friends decide to do. I think that’s the same for Sea of Thieves. The point in playing is what you and your friends decide to do or just play for fun.

@whatisgey Lol I mean’t in

@darealpastrami

Games need content to backup the choices made by players. In sandbox games like Eve and Minecraft, decisions made by players have a purpose within the game. In Eve you can decide to set up your own mining or manufacturing corp and then develop that into an empire. Or you can venture out into wormhole space and set up a base there and live off of it while scavenging and exploring for loot. Or you can buy low from one market and sell somewhere else like missiles if you think there is going to be demand in another system. Minecraft allows you to truly use your creativeness to build varying structures. There would be a ton of replayability if you were able to design and build your own ships in SoT without any of the mission stuff.
None of those true sandbox games rely on the player's imagination to actually be the content. What I mean by that is that currently in SoT, "sandbox" means that the player has to set meaningless goals for themselves like drinking all the grog or eating all the bananas on someone else's ship. That has no gameplay relevance. It's like forcing yourself to only play competitive shooters with a pistol because you are bored with the game and you want to arbitrarily increase the difficulty.

I keep repeating this but we need:

• Fishing. (Imagine meeting up with a random crew and deciding to sit on the coast and fish while the sun goes down instead of sinking them)
• There should be more than just buying your progression with gold.
• Dyes should be created with resources that are biome specific and resources that are need for rarer dye colors should be guarded behind a boss.
• There needs to be a reason to explore islands other than just a chest that is usually easy to find. Islands ATM are just skins of the same thing.
• There needs to be deep story driven puzzles that span across islands. There also needs to be riddles that are actually riddles not riddles disguised as basic directions.
• Chests should be able to be opened giving you all sorts of loot including a chance for gold (when you turn in your chest you get paid a base amount for the chest not for the contents inside it).
• There should be a bounty system (a player drops his skull when he dies which the player can then pick up and hand in or collect).
• Planks/cannonballs/bananas should be scarcer so that fighting other ships and finding flotsams are somewhat rewarding even if they don't have treasure.
• There should be trade goods so that players can buy low from one outpost and sell high at some other outpost if the trader is asking for it. At the moment, goods only come into outposts not out. This means that a player can only either start off with what they had previously if they get sunk or increase their wealth. It would be a lot more intense if players had to buy goods with their own gold and ship them out of the outpost to some other destination.
• Eventually I want a guild system with guild halls and port raids explained here https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/24799/collective-group-goals-and-content for structured pvp.

People play battle royale games because there is a thrill in perma death pvp and the drive to be the number 1 in every game out of 100 people. It also has loot progression so that you can pickup new weapons from the world or from players. It has a competitive nature to it as with all arena style pvp games. SoT loses that excitement after a few times because there is nothing gained or lost after you defeat someone. I honestly feel empty after the first 5 pvp sinks because it has been the same thing with no reward most of the time. There needs to be skulls dropped by players when they die so that people can turn them in or collect them. You should see the collections of corpses people have in eve from past kills.

@ayatrollahumadi I agree. The only thing I didn’t understand was, were you saying that making your own reasons to play SoT was good or bad? I’m not being sarcastic or anything, that’s the one thing I didn’t understand.

@darealpastrami I'm saying that it's like arbitrarily increasing the difficulty with made up challenges in other games. Other sandbox games allows players to make choices and use their imagination but the difference is that the content actually supports those decisions. You have an impact with your decisions in other games. The other side of sandbox is true creativeness like Minecraft where you can let your imagination go wild and build the structure that's in your head. ATM calling SoT a sandbox is a bit of a stretch. Those challenges that you set yourself won't be enough for players to not get bored after a few hours or days.

@ayatrollahumadi Yeah. It doesn’t need to just be a goal though. You can pointlessly play a game just to have everyone on your party/Discord room dying of laughter when you mess around. I just personally think people should start playing for fun sometimes more than for a reason. Of course, I’m not saying don’t do the main storyline of a game or finish all the quests or grind to max level. I’m just saying, play for fun.

@darealpastrami I get what you're saying. Yesterday 3 friends and I decided not to sink a 2 man ship and we had a blast sailing with them. We even abandoned our ship and jumped aboard theirs and went to go find treasure together and play songs. But all that stuff can't be the driving point of the game for a reasonable amount of time. That kind of stuff already feels boring after already doing it. The point of content and goals is for that sort of emergent stuff to organically happen. Right now pvp is stale and treasure chest hunting is stale. Even just fishing will give you content for you to do with total strangers you meet out in the open. Imagine just hanging out at the beach fishing and drinking gog and getting excited when someone hauls in a huuuge catch.

@ayatrollahumadi Fishing would be awesome! Especially in nonPVP areas. hint hint

I keep seeing all these the posts about a lack of content... does nobody know what betas are anymore?

1. Wow, a shooter is more action packed than an RPG. Who'da thought.

2. Fun is the reason.

3. You can loot them. See also: #2

4. Pick up bounties, then explore. See also: #2

5. Why would a skeleton drop gold? They have no use for it, and most of them have no pockets. It's also beta.

6. The other players attack you. NPCs would be lame. See also: #3

7. It's a beta.

8. Fair suggestion

9. It's a beta.

10. It's a beta. Also, there are fish in a lagoon iirc.

11. It's a beta.

12. IT'S A BETA

Unfortunately the "It's a beta" argument (although true) doesn't help here.
This was Rare's chance for the general public to see what this game had to offer. People on Forums/Reddit/etc will know there is more coming but most people won't. They'll think that this Beta is all the game has to offer and lose interest quickly which is a shame