Had an awsome time in the brig.

@vidardm said in Had an awsome time in the brig.:

I then decided to stay in the brig just to be an a*s in case they where waiting for someone. (and after aprox 5 min they told me I should leave (by pming me) due to they where infact waiting for someone. (Lucky me)

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"I am powerless versus those crewmates voting me into the brig - so instead of just reconnecting, i am trying to cause em as much damage as possible cuz i am in a snit!"

So you complain about that crews immature behaviour, but wanna "punish" em by behaving just the same?
Why not ignore em and simply reconnect? Few seconds and you could have had an amazing new crew and actually play the game.
Where is your personal gain here anyway? I guess you wanted to sail around in the first place, but then you allowed them to make you feel so extremely offended that you wasted even more time on "payback"?

Reactions like this just result in a vicious cycle, messing up everyones game experience. If you encounter toxic behaviour online, maybe just consider stepping away from it, it's a game without winners...

The wierd thing is that this games is one of the funniest runs I had in this beta.

For real? That was one of your funniest sessions? Encountering people who insult you and then trying to get revenge?

Yea we had a similar talk on some other topic some time ago.
Since there is no way to set a ship to private (invite only), random players in your crew, possibly blocking a friends slot, can be a problem. And yes - i am totally for asking others nicely to leave - but if you got a non-verbal crew for example, they can't ask you to leave anyway.
So at the moment - voting someone to the brig in order to make em leave is a valid thing in my eyes. It just works. But we gotta fight the cause of the issue here, not the symptoms. I am convinced private crews would reduce this issue so much. In best case with an ingame option to turn the crew public or private at any time.
Complaining over people who exploit the brig system helps noone.

@drbullhammer said in Had an awsome time in the brig.:

I wouldn't have left the game had I been locked in, but I also wouldn't have taken a chest out to sea after getting out.

And here is what i don't get about your position on this. Why engage in this vicious circle of trolling each other? Be mature, step away from people who don't want you in their crew (for whatever stupid reasons) and try your luck with the next crew!
I see no other reason to stay brigged than hurt feelings combined with defiance and the l**t for revenge. I rather play with nice people and i don't need to get on the same level as people i complain about, resulting in me "trolling back". What a waste of time, isn't it?

Now sometimes the random guys is accually the douchebags YES, it happens too and they Need time in the brig ofc! now im talking about the randoms who could leave if the crew just asked.
but @wype0ut-ger i dont think you get this situation @VidarDM experienced. Now of course maybe im a little wrong too since we only heard VidarDM''s version of the story but lets not dwell in that.

When you join a crew session and you try to communicate and be friendly, the other crew then has a choice!
Be decent human beeings and ask you to leave because they want a friend to join, Either by asking nicely with a message or by asking ingame.
Or be completely doucheBags and ignore your many tries to communicate and put you in the brig and send just completely insulting private messages.

And you tell me that its the reaction of the ones locked in the brig that makes theese experiences to happen?

wanna talk about a result in a vicious cycle? try think what happens next time just one of theese guys who got locked are playing with his friends and get another friend who wanna join but they have that random dude in the crew? atleast after my experience there is 80% of the crews you meet that are nice and include the randoms really good but what happens now is that many of the randoms that got locked now resort in doing the exact same thing that these other Douchebags did. And if you see what people like @VidarDM did there, it accually kind of settles the feud right there right? :)

This is just my opinion tho, but there is this thing called karma wich tends to be confused by revenge.
And I think what @VidarDM did here was in no way revenge, he simply served them just a teaspoon of karma fo what they deserved :)
Its nice to see others who keep the game going and see what the situation brings you. This time it looks like the outcome was pleasing for the brigged one :)

but damn what a story haha.

The rougher the seas, the smoother we sail. Ahoy!

@chillvikz said in Had an awsome time in the brig.:

but @wype0ut-ger i dont think you get this situation @VidarDM experienced.

have you even read what i wrote? Oo

And you tell me that its the reaction of the ones locked in the brig that makes theese experiences to happen?

No, where did you read that into?

This is just my opinion tho, but there is this thing called karma wich tends to be confused by revenge.
And I think what @VidarDM did here was in no way revenge, he simply served them just a teaspoon of karma fo what they deserved :)

Karma is a spiritual principle of cause and effect. But just like god, santa or voodoo, it just isn't a real thing. It does not apply to the real world. And for sure not to this situation.

What happened here is: some toxic players offended @VidarDM - and he got angry about it. That is just human nature, i can relate to that. But you gotta make a decision at this point: Either give a sh*t about those toxic guys and just reconnect - or listen to your hurt pride/feelings and pay back those mean guys.
And for me it seems to be the more grown up thing to just leave instead of getting toxic myself, trying to ruin their game. Those guys insulting @VidarDM are wrong in the first place here, but is it Vidars job to deliver self-justice? Is he the person who has to punish those guys for being mean to him?
It all comes down to being in a snit and wanting revenge or being mature enough to laugh at toxic players and simply avoid em.

@DrBullhammer yea "feeling fine waiting them out"... "get it resolved"... sounds to me like you are angry about people who "abuse" the brig system (at least in your opinion) - and since you don't wanna let them get away with this "misbehaviour", you need to teach em a lesson, right? Is that satisfying for you? More satisfying than possibly playing with nice people?

And where again was the problem with reconnecting? As if that reconnect-minute would be worth getting angry about...

@wype0ut-ger I might have missused the "So You basicly Are saying"-thing and i read your post man.
I didnt use the Quote function when i replyed you and that might have broken the meaning of my reply😉
Im only refering to Your opinion on the way a random player should be treated, im sure you mean well and im not trying to dissrespect your opinion too much or something.
I simply think this is all in all the worst way of treating the randoms that are compliant and trying to communicate, are friendly and want to play the session that some of them might waited a looong time on (refering to the loadingscreens and the beard-errors thats goin on now.
To repeat my self I am only amining to the situation of randoms that is trying to be friendly and try their best to make friends in this game and respect other crewmates wich returns the favour by not showing their intent untill they lock the randoms in the brig and send the guy s**t messages and stuff just to get them to leave.

@drbullhammer said in Had an awsome time in the brig.:

And yes, I like conflict resolution. It's never a bad thing.

Resolving online conflicts, where the other party (probably) has no interest at all to resolve something. Mission Impossible?

You are so convinced that you are in the right here that you wanna insist on that "right" by trolling others back. Your stance could be slightly comprehensible if most of these conflicts could be resolved... which they usually can't. Sounds more like a huge waste of time, compared to the option of reconnecting into a non-toxic crew. As if the guys, who wanted you gone earlier, become your friends just because you keep blocking their spot... that logic xD

@mich2mars With the game offering no chance to get rid of unwanted crewmembers joining, the brig will keep being used to get rid of people. Most people don't ever read the pirate code, they just play. I started 95% of my games without ever visiting their website. The game itself does not give you a huge description about the brig either.
I don't recommend to complain about the negative symptoms of the brig system, rather fight the cause.

Again: My suggestion here is to give us an option for private crews that can be toggled ingame. So you can globally allow random people to join or deny em. Unwanted random players seem to be the most common cause of this issue.

And complaining about the abuse of this early stage brig-implementation is kinda useless.
Until crewsettings or another method will solve this, I will just reconnect out of crews who brig me, cuz i wanna play the game and not deal with toxicity.

@Chillvikz i never said the intended way to get rid of unwanted players should be to brig them. i just think it is the most effective and fastest way to get rid of players right now. And either players adapt until the brig-mechanic gets updated, or they gotta deal with the related issues. I just think it is smarter to skip it and have a good time than being locked up.

@wype0ut-ger

@Chillvikz i never said the intended way to get rid of unwanted players should be to brig them. i just think it is the most effective and fastest way to get rid of players right now. And either players adapt until the brig-mechanic gets updated, or they gotta deal with the related issues. I just think it is smarter to skip it and have a good time than being locked up.

It might be the fastest way of dealing with it right now, and yes of course we need to adabt to the situations that evolves aroudn this so i kind of have to agree to that.
But There is a completely respectful way of doing it and then there is a bad way of doing it.

[Edit] And yes this whooole situation can just be skipped by reconnecting of course

I now only want to point out that if Crews want to get rid of a player by making the random feel TOTALLY unwanted, they should try being friendly and act with respect. Its just completely the opposite of the Official Sea of thieves Pirates code wich atleast i am respectfully following as much as i can.
Again i understand your view and that there simply might be only one way to "get rid" of the random crewmate.
I hope you share my opinon on the way a Random matched crewmate should be asked to leave.
I did get of on the wrong foot in the way i might have replied to your opinion on the matter, but my intent was to point out that the Vicious cycle of disrespectfull brigging of randoms is caused by the crewmates that feel the only way to "Get rid" of the random is by making them feel as unwanted as possible.
Again yes there is a whole other story when we talk about some of the randoms might be toxic and stuff, But i only aim towards the situations where the premade crew has a choice of being either Respectful with the code or simply ignoring the situation wich could have been settled in a very peaceful way.

@vidardm
To be even more annoying, you can drink the full tankard of grog and start playing music while drunk, especially when they are down there trying to repair the ship. ;-)

Hopefully there will be private or invite-only crews soon.
We had such a situation a few days ago, as i was playing with two friends and were talking about our days in party chat.
The first player who jumped into our crew communicated via text chats very well and we cashed in some treasures together.
The players that replaced him was just standing on the deck afk from a certain point on.
So we had our "private" crew and he received money and EXP, this situations sound like a win-win to me.
But kicking players into the brig just for joining is horrible, it should only be used when a player is misbehaving or as a little joke if you are all friends.