The solution to Ambush/Chest stealing/Safe zone discussion?

@nortig Interesting idea though in my opinion incomplete.

I think this wouldn't change anything if a well organised team decides to just ambush and wait until they have like 20 chest to move to the other island to deliver.
The teams getting robbed would still be frustrated, probably even more because they would have to chase endlessly the enemy ship and then do the same again. So it would be like mice and cats running after each others back and forth.

But to add to your idea:
Progress could be linked to the quests. Reward linked to the chest. So if for some reason you lose your chest (or get your chest stolen), you would still keep your progress from the quest.

I personally prefer my idea of a relative safe place with less rewards, given the fee you'd pay to the king of the island who authorises the business you're doing (until someone comes up with another idea that I'd prefer).

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Edit : @dzeenk said in The solution to Ambush/Chest stealing/Safe zone discussion?:

The crew that steals in the "parley zone" of an outpost could be marked as truce breakers with a bounty and chased on the seas before they reach the thieves outpost..

I like this idea!

No point in chasing down a pirate if he can just crash into an outpost quick and be safe. It's a pirate game after all. You are safer in numbers, if you play alone you need to play much more tactically.

@darkinz77 how would anyone go about pirating anyone in a pirating game if for only a small amount of gold they can loot stress free all day.

@hauz20 totally down for a white flag but not something that makes you invincible in a game that's specifically about pirating and thieving from others.

You don't have to be good at pvp, just better at sailing a ship and being sneaky and observant. Sell when you can often and safely. Always safer in numbers.

@m4tt3r4u said in The solution to Ambush/Chest stealing/Safe zone discussion?:

The solution is to just be a better Pirate... The name of the game is SEA OF THIEVES. Circle the island and make sure no ships are docked, and if no ships, look in the water for mermaids. If you get your chests stolen that's that's on you.

True, And the name of the game is indeed SEA of Thieves, so it only seems fair that the thieves actually have to set out to sea sometime.
And currently (from what I understand) there are 6 outposts and up to 90 players on one server/instance, meaning if 36/90 people (assuming 4-man crews) decide to camp on a server there are no safe outposts to deliver on. Now this is unlikely but I've learned never to underestimate the amount of d-bags out there.

Besides, this is why we have discussions; to let people punch holes in our ideas, and hope that there aren't too many or we can fix the holes before it sinks ;)

@dzeenk said in The solution to Ambush/Chest stealing/Safe zone discussion?:

Maybe a delay in time before they can sell it back or like you said another outpost. It could also be a special "thieves" outpost were only chests marked as stolen can be sold.
The crew that steals in the "parley zone" of an outpost could be marked as truce breakers with a bounty and chased on the seas before they reach the thieves outpost..

And what about chests that get stolen from thieves outpost? :D

The suspense of incoming attacks is what is making the game a rush. Everything else is pretty straight forward (but fine like this).

But what about bountys on Crews? This should be a thing!

"Black Sails at the horizon!! It's the [Insert Crew Name here]-Crew!"

4th NPC voyage merchant: Bounty Hunt

@nortig I agree! This happened to me last night! I had two treasure chests to turn in. On my way to get the second chest, i saw another pirate take my treasure chest and run with it. I tried to catch him, but it was too late..... And then he killed me..... with his sword :(. I was shook! ~Becca

There is many ways you can prefent this .
1.Dont store all the chest in a boat at once maybe take a few chests bring them back etc.

2.Scout out a outpost before docking there .look for ship masts wich you cant miss.!

3.If players are camping without a ship there always be mermaids in the water that gives away that there are players present.

4.the game should not turn into a casual game where everything is just given .or made safe zones etc because people find a way to abuse this .

5.so check out your surroundings and people should be fine!!
You lost a fight or get ambushed whilst there are clear signs of players ...Then you deserve to lose it

If anything, you should be spawned on a random island if you sit on an outpost for too long. If anything. There are indicators that people are around like ships and if there around and they ditched there ship then there's mermaids around. Always look for them.

so you are saying the chest have tagged outpost the need to go to?

@cable0312 No i mean the chest tags 1 outpost where it can't be sold by the thieving crew (basically the shopkeeper saying: "I saw you steal that, I'm not paying you for it" ), they can sell it at all others.

mkay, seems ok

@th3-rebelv2
1-3:
All good advise. But at some point you have to land in order to sell your chests. (at least until they let you keep chests while logged out, and I have no idea how (or why) they would implement that)

4: This was proposed as an alternative to the safe zones. Just camping and firing a few shots in order to cash in is somehow not "a casual game where everything is just given."?

@retto-elbaroda Hmm, sorry to hear that. Yea people can be quite.. "salty" on these forums. Take solace in that there are at least a few like-minded individuals out there. And all our voices deserve to be heard; even if not agreed with.
As for the "special thief guild trader" idea; it's not a bad one, more variety is good after all. I just see "my idea" as the simplest way to solve the problem, it can certainly be expanded upon.

@TH3GHOST23 Thank you. Do remember that respawn mechanics need to apply to all players, and respawning "as far away as possible from any other crews." would be quite annoying if you are sunk while in a battle near a quest island or such. But I would agree with no mermaid respawns and the ship spawning 1-3 islands away. But that is perhaps a discussion best left for another thread.