Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow

No c**p it's repetitive and shallow, but how is that surprising when it's a triple a title in 2018? As always, created to be enjoyed by the lowest common denominator, hardly playtested, and rushed out the door to meet a deadline.

The fact of the matter is that it's a team based sailing game where you have to manually control parts of the ship with a decent framework for pvp, and to my knowledge the only of it's kind. With a few tweaks, like damage to rudder/masts/anchor and retractable ladders that drop when damaged, this game could survive on ship to ship pvp combat alone. Maybe add tier 2 and tier 3 holes for hits on the same spot but also devalue any treasure as damaged and destroy any fort key when a ship is destroyed too thoroughly.

Hopefully they'll add a few game modes, too. I have a lot of good ideas, especially if it's possible to have the wind going in multiple directions or emanating from an item or place. Some sort of separate maps like arathi basin or alterac valley with multiple ships on a "team" and islands that affect the wind or do other interesting things.

But again... it's a triple a title in 2018, so my hopes and expectations are incredibly low. The most I expect at this point is for them to keep the servers on for at least a year and make a sequel even sooner than that.

@rager82 I dont have buyers remorse. I knew what i was getting. Why is this hard for people to understand. Most of us defending the game knew it was going to be shallow and repetitive from the get go, but bought it anyways because they loved the foundational gameplay. The ones who ARE complaining are the ones with buyers remorse.

@cwarrick66 said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

we spend so much time putting game developers on a pedestal as if they're infallibel celebrities but in reality many of them are just loud mouthed, low rent, unemployed morons like this guy.

they probably fired him cause his art sucked. obviously it was a welcome change. the art direction in the game is breathtaking. This salty rat could very well have ruined the game.

More likely standard development practice and hiring occurred.
During development cycles, they'll over-hire artists until "the core" of the game is complete. They'll then sack down to a minimal amount of artists and modellers to save on costs, leaving behind just a few code developers and a skeleton team to support them.

This is a very common practice in the industry.

In this instance however, it seems Rare either understimated what constitutes a sensible Core or lacked funding to create one.

@rager82 i agree with your points but I still have a blast while playing it. Me and my friends are used to DayZ. Nothing much to do there, you have to make your own fun. So we have less of a problem with the content but I understand the criticism. I too think that they need to drop more content fast or else rare will sink.

@avecrux said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

@noxsamus closed beta, 4 weekends in a row where you can test game (do not say that you don't have that 2 hours), 14 day free trial.

no i work weekends and gereraly em very tired when i'm done to play a game! but does not matter, not the first game i bought that ends up on the shelf for a few years before it gets any good. won't be the last either probably.

@deadtree-alive Listen I understand your points, well except the Rainbow 6 part...
And the Devs never said anything specific about the beta content to live content, the forum users did. That, and there was more, not the vast amount that players minds dreamed of, but you can't blame Rare for that either really.

You bought it as other did without reading/watching reviews. Reviews don't matter to me as most of them just want it to be a clone of whatever game they think is great. Could it have more sure. Will it have more, yes. Will I be here when it does, yes. Will others, well it depends what kind of player they are.

NMS is still a great game in my opinion, and where they messed up was the promises, and overstating the games' intent from the start when MS strapped the rocket on them. I never bought NMS, because I watched the pre-release info and said no way can they do all that in this time frame.

But, both games problems you can scream at MS about for rushing them out... but both games never would have been made without MS' help either. That and the core loop of SoT will always be fun, walking around without danger (like NMS) collecting upgrades and material will be fun much less time.

@rager82 said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

@zokraitz How about you agree, and be a good consumer. Call this game what it really is. A cash grab from a studio that was on its last chance? Being honest feels good.

dang bro are you mad? you do realize that SoT hit a player count of 2 million right? your comments about how this is Rare's last game are pretty ridiculous.

@platypuserotica seems like he wanted his company to do well and saw that it was an inferrior game at release. It seems he wanted the company to do well but they wouldnt listen...But at the end of the day....Its the heads of Rare this will all fall on....NO matter who's opinion

@zokraitz except people did look and the devs outright lied about content at launch. Your cheerleading is as stale as a chicken hunt.

@mrgrim67686 said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

@zokraitz except people did look and the devs outright lied about content at launch. Your cheerleading is as stale as a chicken hunt.

Name one lie that the devs made, with sources. The release videos and betas showed us EXACTLY what we'd get at launch. Just because you inferred something from what they showed that didn't come true doesn't mean they lied.

@hntr-green https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/56083/remember-when-rare-said-everything-in-this-video-would-be-in-the-game-come-launch?page=1

Why you people flock to defend deceptive business practices and obvious beta/early access titles is beyond me.

What they offered at launch is unacceptable. Unless it's a F2P mobile grindfest. It's not though. It's a F2P mobile game sold for 60 dollars. Might want to get you some lube. Riding Rare's jock that hard has got to chafe.

@wkgnoxx Dude if even you are good, this game is total garbage after some decent play time on it , I played it alot but it was not i hoped for, and it was way to overhyped. Its basically the same as the final beta except , the rewards was lowered, the prices of cosmetics increased. and then ofcourse you have a lot people who actually cheat and rare havent done anything about it. Its trash , i just come here now to read all the hate it still getting :) Glad I got this trough gameshare , i feel sorry for the guys who used 60£ on this pile of s**t. Good concept tho , but AC: Black flag is even more fun even tho it does not have pvp and pvp is best

@mrgrim67686 said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

@hntr-green https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/56083/remember-when-rare-said-everything-in-this-video-would-be-in-the-game-come-launch?page=1

Why you people flock to defend deceptive business practices and obvious beta/early access titles is beyond me.

What they offered at launch is unacceptable. Unless it's a F2P mobile grindfest. It's not though. It's a F2P mobile game sold for 60 dollars. Might want to get you some lube. Riding Rare's jock that hard has got to chafe.

There was nothing deceptive about this, stop saying it. Just because YOU expected more out of it, doesn't mean they lied to you.

What they offered at launch was fine. Tons of the beta players, myself included, knew what we'd be getting and proudly bought it and still play it. If YOU don't like it, then perhaps YOU should have reviewed what they showed as being in it and tried the beta, which was free to get into, and seen it for yourself.

Regarding your link, there has not been ONE single E3 video over a year before release that hasn't had something missing from the game at launch. Things change, and it was never promised that exactly what we saw in EVERY pre-release video would be in the game. They've already stated that they didn't like the Violin as it was, so they released the two current instruments and will add it, as well as other instruments, at a later date. It's not a priority though, much like the pets and other micro-transaction items.

If you TRULY think that RARE is screwing you over, then contact them and demand a refund, and leave the forums. After all, if you don't think the developers deserve proper payment, then you don't deserve to use their forums for their product.

@hntr-green Already did request a refund, but their customer service is as weak as their dev team and the very few cheerleaders such as yourself. I'll be right here to remind them. ...and you.

Your lack of awareness makes me wonder how much they're paying you to come here and defend them. The game has nothing to offer. Bare bones laborious PvP, and bland, unimaginative, repetitive PvE.

Just because you wish something were here doesn't make it so kiddo.

@weedstar-deluxe Fetch. Good boy.

@mrgrim67686 said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

@hntr-green Already did request a refund, but their customer service is as weak as their dev team and the very few cheerleaders such as yourself. I'll be right here to remind them. ...and you.

Your lack of awareness makes me wonder how much they're paying you to come here and defend them. The game has nothing to offer. Bare bones laborious PvP, and bland, unimaginative, repetitive PvE.

Just because you wish something were here doesn't make it so kiddo.

Oh yes, I must be being paid to legitimately defend a product I enjoy playing... /sarcasm

@hntr-green Who's a good boy? Fetch!

@j3r8z said in Confirmed former Sea of Thieves developer says the game is repetitive and shallow:

@ferroushornet01 Well Sea of thieves is literally one of the most smooth games in terms of just running on the pc or console. if i had a chance i would tell him i think he did a wonderful job on the ships and thank you for helping make the game better. Dont know why people are going slasher film on the game. it just unique fun experience. And they will add more.

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@ferroushornet01 lol former disgruntled employee dissing the game. Big surprise there. His complaints about spending so much time on individual assets prove he is s**t. With most devs there are whole departments devoted to a small group of assets sometimes even one asset. Fallout game for example have a whole team just for the EXO. I mean come on if you going to try and troll your former employer come up with something original and not just a word for word regurgitation of every other post on the forums.