Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.

@infidelxkronic yesterday I had a player that would not die to shark attacks, and he was swimming to our ship with a barrel. I shot the barrel out of his hands, and did not kill him then a shark was biting him while my crew and I were hitting him with gun shots. Finally one of my crew attacked him with a sword, and we were able to kill him. I agree cheaters suck, and most likely they are trying to compensate for the lack of something IRL, but if crossplay is removed it will completely kill this game for many of us. Dealing with hackers and implementing anti cheat software is the correct solution.

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i personally play on Xbox One X but Never had problems with any kind of player either somebody killed me cuz he had better skill „many do due to the awesom Lag on The console version“ Or i killed him cuz i had better skill, it has nothing to do with PC or Console man you don’t even know what the guy that just killed you is playing on

Of course a PC player would say that lol cheaters

@mrbrocksego ignorant comment

@gem-pheenix said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

The crossplay aspect of this game is great and it prooves just how well crossplay between platforms can work in the right kinds of games. One of the big selling points for this game for me was that I could get it on my xbox and play it with my friends who aren't console gamers. It's awesome not counting the small ammount of hacks people encounter most of peoples complaints are just about how they got beaten by a better skilled player. Implement an Anti-Cheat on the PC version ASAP and ban the hackers they are giving the rest of the PC players as a whole a bad rep and fueling the console fanboys that can't see the big picture. Don't give up on your no compromises crossplay philosophy for this game.

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I also don't think cheating is as bad as some people make it and I enjoy playing with friends that are on PC but I think if a pvp game has mixed servers than it should a few balancing aspects that SoT doesn't have for now.

First is either push for keyboard mouse support for consoles or make controller mandatory on pc. If it's equal playground both parties should be able to chose between keyboard and controller. Or both parties should be on controller till keyboard support for Xbox is done (not rare fault).

Second, if Xbox plays at 30fps so should the pc version. Or optimize the game for 60fps on either platform. Probably less likely. If Xbox players can play at 30fps it won't kill the pc people to do that too.

And lastly if there is any cheating accounts should be banned faster and publicly. The game is not that cheap so it might prevent others from trying to cheat if the ban hammer starts swinging.

Currently I can tell when I am fighting pc players because the medium-good ones when in a ship fight you can't face. They spam jump and turn faster than you can turn with the controller and are always behind you. I don't think I died from cheaters but from this countless times. Cannon fights on the other hand seems quite balanced between pc and Xbox.

In any case for the moment I enjoy the mixed aspect of the game but I can see it getting frustrating at melee/close fights in the long run.

@coldpopeye

keyboard & mouse support on the XBone is a Microsoft thing, you need to be upset with them (especially since i can play fortnite with my keyboard on the PS4)

also, you can't force PC players to use a controller because my PC didn't come with a controller

furthermore, from rumours i've heard, PC's graphics have already been nerfed to accomodate for console gamers. If you're console can't handle 4k60fps go buy a better one or get a PC, but don't nerf my graphics for "gameplay fairness" when other forum posters are insistent that this game isn't competitive

in conclusion, Crossplay is the future, & it's Microsofts fault that there isn't Human-Interface-Device parity between their console & windows 10 (i mean, it's also all of the console fanboys who think they're 1337 snipers but can't be a***d to learn how to use a mouse & keyboard, which will for the time being remain the top tier in interface devices)

@hoboprof said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@coldpopeye

keyboard & mouse support on the XBone is a Microsoft thing, you need to be upset with them (especially since i can play fortnite with my keyboard on the PS4)

also, you can't force PC players to use a controller because my PC didn't come with a controller

furthermore, from rumours i've heard, PC's graphics have already been nerfed to accomodate for console gamers. If you're console can't handle 4k60fps go buy a better one or get a PC, but don't nerf my graphics for "gameplay fairness" when other forum posters are insistent that this game isn't competitive

in conclusion, Crossplay is the future, & it's Microsofts fault that there isn't Human-Interface-Device parity between their console & windows 10 (i mean, it's also all of the console fanboys who think they're 1337 snipers but can't be a***d to learn how to use a mouse & keyboard, which will for the time being remain the top tier in interface devices)

Well consoles don't come with mouse and keyboard either but we'll buy them when they are supported (and yes is not rare fault as I said).

quick edit: Xbox players pay for the Xbox live (the servers) per month so I think any game with mixed servers should make sure the game runs equally good/bad on any system.

@coldpopeye

again, you paying for Live is between you & microsoft & has nothing to do with me & RARE

second, you're right, your console doesn't come with mouse/keyboard, but it does come with a controller & no one is stopping you from using it. (Microsoft is stopping you, XBone player, from using M&KB, but again, that is between you & microsoft & has nothing to do with me)

& finally, you're just wrong, a game shouldn't have it's graphics nerfed on one system so that it's the same as the graphics on the other system. that's BS. Should they nerf the 4k on the Xbox One X so that it's in parity with the poor people trying to play SoT on an older Xbox One?

@gem-pheenix That is like saying don't listen to conspiracy theories because they are false. Sometimes there is merit to conspiracy theories. Sometimes people make valid criticism against cross-play.

At this point I feel like they should at least add the option and assess the results once players are allowed the option to choose.

console only/crossplay/pc only

And see how the numbers shake out. If majority stays in crossplay then keep as is, if it a large majority of consoles players elect console only then it's probably in their best interest to separate the two or at least permanently allow that as an option

@gem-pheenix

this video you linked adds an important point, it's the gamers choice to play SoT in 30fps (or with a controller, or on an Xbox, or with a poor internet connection, or in ultrawidescreen 4k) your personal choice (or your limits do to your socioeconomic status) shouldn't affect anyone elses gameplay experience.

the point of SoT is a shared open world environment where anyone playing a legal copy of the game with minimum system requirements can play the same game.

def ban cheaters, def push MS as a studio (RARE) to release Mouse/Keyboard support for Xbox, & def find ways to increase parity, but PvP & Crossplay are core tenets of the game.

@mrbrocksego said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

SAME. If it didn't have crossplay it would have two less players. In our house we have an xbox and a pc and this is one of very few games my GF and I can play together. This is a selling feature for me.

Easy solution , make crossplay a option. there you go.
Most people on xbox want this to be a option not something we are forced with.
The needs of many outweighs the needs of the few , well it did untill this garbage was realeased

Everyone arguing in support of crossplay are PC players wanting to maintain their advantage. Who are you trying to fool?

@gods-el-kimac

it's not a need, it's a want.

Need is in Overwatch, where the competitive environment would make it impossible for true crossplay (though i'm sure people have tried to play LoL with a controller & that's okay too)

yours is want because there is nothing affected. Your gameplay experience? pshaw, limited amounts of cheating that can happen in any title on any platform is always a ban-able offence. Unfair PvP? also pshaw, & that is only because your console doesn't allow for parity in Human-Interface-Devices. That is between you & Microsoft, you should talk to them about that, because as soon as MS gives the O.K. to do so, RARE will enable play with M&Kb on xbox.

"But that's not the Point!" no the point is that you don't understand the scale of the economic forces at play here. So since this isn't an ultracompetitive e-sport game, cross-play is going to be paramount to complaints that PC players have better tech than xbone users. sucks, but that's the economy, baby.

@oneeeyedwilly

i'm trying to play with my friends regardless of my platform

also, i'm allergic to bad rhetoric, and arguments that aren't well-formed. kinda like yours now that i look at it

@gods-el-kimac

& RARE is going to take note of that

"A small but vocal minority of Xbox 1 players feel that crossplay should be disabled, but in the discussion forum they are shown to say that they don't care enough to even read the other posts discussing the matter. Should we do something about their concerns, RARE team?"
"uh, they said they couldn't care enought?"
"yes that is correct"
"nah, i don't think so, these gamers already don't care, they will just move onto other games, we should focus on the gamers that do care"

sorry, what was your point?

@knifelife Yeah i know right. It's funny how you hardly see any pc players who wants it to be a option , its all mostly just xbox players who want a even playing field.

@hoboprof said in Rare please don't listen to all the 'crossplay is ruining the game' complaints.:

@oneeeyedwilly

i'm trying to play with my friends regardless of my platform

also, i'm allergic to bad rhetoric, and arguments that aren't well-formed. kinda like yours now that i look at it

oh snap...you got me hobo. Rhetoric and "non well-formed arguments". Big time elitist PC player huh? Is the game PVP? Is there at least a 0.1% advantage to PC? That is all the argument I need to say "give us the option". Why do YOU get to say "let me play with who I want", but I can't say the exact same darn thing? Maybe I'm allergic to hypocrisy and circular logic. Have a good evening.

I think they should listen to both sides and find a medium between the two.

Half my party plays Xbox, half PC. But I'm not against other people opt-ing out of playing with me due to my platform.