What is the "End Game"?

@surveyorpete I don't think there really is an endgame. Of course there are many people that consider Pirate Legend the endgame. But with so many more events and items coming to the game it seems that there will be a lot to do after hitting legend.

@surveyorpete when i hit legend i had way more fun because i didnt have a definite thing to do now i just do whatever on occasion ill grind athenas but for the most part i just do whatever join interesting looking LFGs

@surveyorpete

Like @KescarteDJ I too am a completionist. I agree with much of what said ,but would like to go a bit futher.

I can see your confusion on the term "End Game" as it applies to this game. You are correct when you stat the term derives from Chess. It is the state in which your tatical preperations are tested to reach the goal. In Rpgs like fall out the End Game is What your Character can do at Max Level as a test of you build. This is in relation to things like Raids in destiny were you grind to be able to complete them and then your in the Meta game changihg build and trying new things to see whats more effective as well as building teams.

In SoT the game Philoshy was marketed as creating your own story to pirate legend and once you hit PL it was expected you would have game system that would disquish you from other players. This however fell short. With the lack of a social hub a limited player interaction there really nothing rewarding social about being a PL. Then you get access to the hideout which is cool except it serves no real purpose other then to buy 1 new quest which is just a combo of the 3 you done already so nothing new and some more cosmetics. Really it's more of the same. An endless grind for cosmetics which means nothing.

I always saw End Game Mechnically as PvP as the quickest way to grind in PvE so PvP is what you do after the grind. The grind is there for ghe explict purpose to to incentivize players to collect loot for others to steal. However this also kind of back fired as they put way to much enfices on collecting loot from PvE that it deligitimzed the practice of PvP theift not only that but the loot itself became valuless to most PvPer's as Gold and Rep offers nothing to PvP. Cosmetics only work as a reward if it can serve as proof of an accomplishment. Since non of the cosmetics require you to participate in any kind of PvP it has no value as a PvP reward.

So some are correct yo say that the End Game is what ever you want it to be just means this game doesn't give you an End Goal.

To me i wanted the End Goal for me to Captain My own ship which i can uniquly customize and where i can build my own private hideout to amass large amount of treasures and seek out grand challanges like dungeons or just hunt other ships. To spread my name far and wide across the SOT where my fans would Envy me and my enermies would fear me all to hopefull have me and my crew namess etched into the very game as an easter egg for all to find and learn my tale of legend.

Thay my friend is what i mean by End Game. It is true progression. As you see the dev focused so much on the jounery they forgot that with out an True End Goal the journey is just running in circles. No one like spinning around in circles?

Idk... I think we need more stuff for PL
There are lot of PL... They stop to add things for not PL
Would like to see something like capitancy or New weapons for PL

SOT is a strange game...It is a game with a "Soul" ...i can't explain ( * like usual, moron) but when i played the first Alpha , two years ago, i wouldn't expect to play this game two years later. i had only one game franchise that hooked me for years and that was the Gears of War series and especially the Horde mode in that game...That's where i learned that co-operation is more fun than years after years trying to be the best in games like Call of Duty or Rainbow Six and sortalike games...
Although Rare added alot to the cooperative character of this game , it delivered a lot of deeper emotions too...First the amazement of Acceptance by the Greats of this Forum. You cannot comprehend what it did to me to finally be able to speak ,with my toecurling accent for some , and not being thrashed for it...The game and more importantly , the philosophy behind it , made that i just "loved " this game. i thought about it night and day , wrote silly stories , something i never dared to do .So in a way this game had altered me ...When the levels were introduced , i didn't cared about them , i loved to enjoy the company i sailed with and if we didn't levelled up at all , i didn't care , i just wanted to have fun, silly childish humour and a talk...

Eventually Pirate Legend came along , and i became one of the many, i feared that i would become saturated with SOT , but the contrary has been the truth...Becoming Pirate Legend ( * You are not a Pirate Legend , yokel , you are a Legendary Dumbo, fool) meant "freedom" for me, i didn't had to care for any level anymore and i don't even care for Pirate Legend Levels...All this striving for something became wiped of the table , i play this game pure for fun and...for something else...i've grown with this game and just like Rare , i have forgotten how hard it must be for a brand new Pirate to come to this Sea that is filled to the top with experienced players. The fact that you can steal hard earned treasure and therefor , unknowingly, may destroy a person's love for this game became very aware in my mind...The "i only defend " style became a mental obligation...A trained eye in spotting new people or Pirates that just wanted to play on their own woke up in me. And slowly but certaintly i joined random crews , together with my Great Friend Mr J4dio, to goof around, and entertain people in a more improvising way...

And so we met a lot of new Pirates , wich triggered the latest streak of emotions: The Joy to pass through our experience to New Pirates that don't mind to learn a few things...The egocentric days where only the "best of the best" counted or had a voice came to an end in this Masterpiece of a Game...My conscience became awoken with the fact that i could help people to fall in love with this game...Sometimes it works and that shot of emotions through my Heart can really move mountains of Madness but if i fail , and fail to connect with a person, then i really feel low , because i really do try that people are Accepted in the way that i was once Accepted... You can call me a zealot ( * Pffft , is that all that they may call you ...plonker...Oi, Pirates , knock yerself out on this one ,call him every name from the Dirt Dictionary , he doesn't mind, he probably doesn't understand it anyhow...Freakin moron, hihihihihiii) but i really get a good feeling if i hear people laugh or hear the " Aah, i didn't knew that " or sortalike comments...

This game keeps evolving in more ways than just DLC or content , but maybe you have to be a little bit older , because we don't follow the world anymore, we stand aside and think twice about things compared with our younger days...This game has a Soul, a Soul that can't die , a Soul that doesn't seem to bore me , A Soul that pushes me forward in an attempt to stay in touch with people before an inner darkness would isolate me again...

@clumsy-george said in What is the "End Game"?:

SOT is a strange game...It is a game with a "Soul" ...i can't explain ( * like usual, moron) but when i played the first Alpha , two years ago, i wouldn't expect to play this game two years later. i had only one game franchise that hooked me for years and that was the Gears of War series and especially the Horde mode in that game...That's where i learned that co-operation is more fun than years after years trying to be the best in games like Call of Duty or Rainbow Six and sortalike games...
Although Rare added alot to the cooperative character of this game , it delivered a lot of deeper emotions too...First the amazement of Acceptance by the Greats of this Forum. You cannot comprehend what it did to me to finally be able to speak ,with my toecurling accent for some , and not being thrashed for it...The game and more importantly , the philosophy behind it , made that i just "loved " this game. i thought about it night and day , wrote silly stories , something i never dared to do .So in a way this game had altered me ...When the levels were introduced , i didn't cared about them , i loved to enjoy the company i sailed with and if we didn't levelled up at all , i didn't care , i just wanted to have fun, silly childish humour and a talk...

Eventually Pirate Legend came along , and i became one of the many, i feared that i would become saturated with SOT , but the contrary has been the truth...Becoming Pirate Legend ( * You are not a Pirate Legend , yokel , you are a Legendary Dumbo, fool) meant "freedom" for me, i didn't had to care for any level anymore and i don't even care for Pirate Legend Levels...All this striving for something became wiped of the table , i play this game pure for fun and...for something else...i've grown with this game and just like Rare , i have forgotten how hard it must be for a brand new Pirate to come to this Sea that is filled to the top with experienced players. The fact that you can steal hard earned treasure and therefor , unknowingly, may destroy a person's love for this game became very aware in my mind...The "i only defend " style became a mental obligation...A trained eye in spotting new people or Pirates that just wanted to play on their own woke up in me. And slowly but certaintly i joined random crews , together with my Great Friend Mr J4dio, to goof around, and entertain people in a more improvising way...

And so we met a lot of new Pirates , wich triggered the latest streak of emotions: The Joy to pass through our experience to New Pirates that don't mind to learn a few things...The egocentric days where only the "best of the best" counted or had a voice came to an end in this Masterpiece of a Game...My conscience became awoken with the fact that i could help people to fall in love with this game...Sometimes it works and that shot of emotions through my Heart can really move mountains of Madness but if i fail , and fail to connect with a person, then i really feel low , because i really do try that people are Accepted in the way that i was once Accepted... You can call me a zealot ( * Pffft , is that all that they may call you ...plonker...Oi, Pirates , knock yerself out on this one ,call him every name from the Dirt Dictionary , he doesn't mind, he probably doesn't understand it anyhow...Freakin moron, hihihihihiii) but i really get a good feeling if i hear people laugh or hear the " Aah, i didn't knew that " or sortalike comments...

This game keeps evolving in more ways than just DLC or content , but maybe you have to be a little bit older , because we don't follow the world anymore, we stand aside and think twice about things compared with our younger days...This game has a Soul, a Soul that can't die , a Soul that doesn't seem to bore me , A Soul that pushes me forward in an attempt to stay in touch with people before an inner darkness would isolate me again...

Another beautfully written treasure you made there. You truly are a Legend of words. You have Masterfully expained what makes this game so special and why i care so much about it.

I to had these feeling as this game provided me with an experience that no game since had actually could deliver. This is due to the games very foundation and core concept. It allowed me to meet new people and bond with them as they accepted me for who i was. I to have a speech impediment i find that everyone shows off there flaws as it doesn't matter in this game. It only matters if we can support each other to overcome those flaws in order to progress on our voyage.

However this does not stop me from being critical of this game as i feel it has so much more to offer and can be much better. When it lanched it was unfinshed and a fraction of what it could be. It took them almost a year just to get all the Forts working. Not to mention the End Game content that was promised to us in the Captaincy Update that has now been put on hold till further notice. The Core gamplay is great except for the bugs the base game mechnics are fun. There just not much more to it. Also this game inherently requires alot of time comitment to have these special moments as the game heavly relies on Ramdomness. Most people really derive there opinion on frist impressions but as a player in this game you have to learn and except the fact do to the Randomness a Good Frist Impression is not garrented. The game is different every time you start.

Though with a proper EnD Game you can craft an Experiance everyone can have and share that is not subjected to that randomness.

I this game we all craft our stories, to me your a legend on this forum with your post and i respect and admire them and your unique POV. It's a shame though we never met on the sea's. Unfortunately there no way to share our stories in-game. I wish they were ways to do that. Cause what good is a story if it can't be told? Am i right?

@surveyorpete The term:
“The game only begins when you reach PL”

Was actually a marketing slogan used by the developers on the lead up to launch, teasing about the mysterious Athena’s fortune.

Needless to say there was a fair bit of controversy when people finally got there and realised it was the same 3 missions again lol.