as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast

  • El Perplexo
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    Hey,

    been playing this game for a while now as probably all of you but yesterday as I was doing my own things, i've been ganked by a galeon full of legendary (ahem) pirates.. which found fun to drop my anchor, kill me and they seemed pretty proud of having done so 4 to 1 apparently.. I then tracked them for two hours, was able to sank them while they were steady on a fort (were I was trying to do by myself, but they found it fun again to sunk my boat.. )

    anyway.. i suggest you should eventually have some way of removing the lader when you are plaing solo.. sailing and repairing and firing is already hard as hell, but when fire is upon you, and you still have a two persons being able to raid your ship.. it doesn't make things very fun.

    i'm not against pvp, but I think there should be some thing done to the one who attack other when there are clear sign (like the white flag which I had placed) you don't want to engage combat (first time they sank the boat i was in a immerged galion)
    or.. if you feel like it's time for revenge, there should be some way to give some chances to a solo player, because lowering the anchor is one of those things when you are suddently very unneficient while being alone..

    well .. i am mostly annoyed by the fact some people don't respect much of solo players, but it would be cool to see some ideas to let them have a little bit more space to breath,, because damn it is intense to have to fight your right to just do your things.

    tl-dr:
    solo players have a though time against stoopid which find fun to gank them

    • option to remove the ladder in order to prevent one kind of annoyance which is very hard to come by as a solo player
    • having a way of locking the anchor up which will give you more time to react to an invasion..
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  • Mc rossco
    Marauder
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    That's just part of being a solo player, gotta make sure to keep your distance from the ships you're fighting and keep an eye out for boarders. Solo sloop is hard mode no reason to make it any easier than it is.

  • Hynieth
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    @el-perplexo
    What are you trying to accomplish? Many angry posts against your Idea?

    Lots of Git Gud replies?

    People telling you to look out while you're doing things?

    Not play solo?

    If you play solo you're going to run into some situations where a crew will board you and keep on killing you over and over untill you scuttle. It saves cannonballs, gives the crew time to loot you dry of your own cannonballs, banana's and planks and it makes sure you wont kill them.

    I understand, you're too proud to scuttle you can win this fight. They are bullies you did nothing wrong. We've read it all before here. But in the end it's part of the game and there's no reason for you to stay too long and fight. You lost, move on.

    Then you start about sinking them and getting sunk yourself, as if you sinking them implies they're not allowed to sink you? huh? You went back and fought them (and won, good job) so now you're assuming you won't sink?

    You want Ladders removed? But why? Honestly why? I'll tell you why, because YOU dont like it and because it will help YOU. Will it help me? my crew, the many other crews who work with the game in stead of against it? No it doesnt, the needs of the few does not nor will it ever outweigh the need of the few.

    The game is open ended, I know scary right? You get the tools to do things in this game and the game says go have fun, figure it out.
    Your Idea of fun is just floating around and being passive, fine by me. But others like fighting, they'll hunt down people kill them sink their ships. The game doesnt and won't stop them because it's an open world game no bars held.
    You wanting to change the game because it suits you is realy egotistical of you. Think about others for once.

    I respect solo players, but if you make it easy I'm not going to let you just float there with all that loot. (it's free candy you know).

  • GPMrks
    Master

    I agree with you and I may add that Sea of Thieves is a game far ahead of our time, the concept, the idea of it is incredible and awesome but the players don't have the respect or the maturity to enjoy it. This is my opinion tho.

    Edit: adding: I find awesome that the outposts have a lot of docks minded for many ships to dock all together. ha, never gonna happen.

  • Hit x Reg
    Ship Mate
    Insider

    All I do is play solo and I used to be intimidated by the sight of a galleon. And always had my head on a swivel. However I have come up with my own way in dealing with them and I get pumped everytime I see a ship headed my way. I YouTube Marilyn Mansons beautiful people. Just the instrumental and play it through my headset while using the speaking trumpet. I'd say 90% of the time the galleons turn tail and flee. Having me in pursuit for about 20 minutes. You can hear them panicking. Its hilarious.

  • Hynieth
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    @e11evenbsouth lol, It'd make me just close in faster so I can kill you faster so you can stop faster ^_^
    But I imagine I'm in the minority.

  • Hit x Reg
    Ship Mate
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    @hynieth hahaha.

  • DISLEX fx
    Captain
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    I'm a fair player. I kill everyone.

  • Szawel123
    Founder

    You can pick your megaphone and use "MERCY!" command, not sure if it will help at all but i dont think you have much choice.

  • sanni
    Lord
    Founder

    As a team player, ganking one-man crews is ... well not a blast either. 😶

    Why don't you do us all a favor and at least crew up with one other person? A good sloop duo is a formidable opponent. 👍

  • Spectrazy666
    Insider

    @el-perplexo happen to me yesterday a galleon of what i call the sundaykid crew r**e my boat and my animal as a adult i did what supose to be done kegged the galleon and cover hole kid are super excited so them all rush on boat to bail 2 of them blunderbuss bye bye kid and the galleon sink runned in the isle so they go 4 me kited them near a gunpower keg and boom ! They were mad lol to bad didnt have time to steal there chest my baby was waking up so i dif i great quest 4 them and hided all there 6 treasor on the island was funny ^^

  • Jacqui O Blades
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    @el-perplexo I solo a fair amount of the time and the main issue I have is when I get one shot with a cannon, or get knocked off my boat.
    But being boarded I would not rank high on my list of issues. Get yourself some headphones and listen to the audio cues.

    @pereraaa said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    Edit: adding: I find awesome that the outposts have a lot of docks minded for many ships to dock all together. ha, never gonna happen.

    During the Hungering Deep event my impromptu sloop fleet all parked at Dagger Tooth, so that was at least 3 ships using the docks. You never know.

  • El Perplexo
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    @hynieth
    [Mod edited] i've nothing against the pvp component, i've something against the [Mod edited], or about being 4 against one.. i've actually something against cowardice i must say and i'm sporty, that's why i wanted revenge. [Mod edited] it's part of the game.. i don't complain if I get robbed, and didn't mention it for a reason..

    problem this kind of people that find fun while messing with people which just wants to play the rules.. and i'm speaking about the one you can read everytime you get out of the tavern, if I put a white flag and I don't mess with you? why should you come over with three of your friends..? i'm not twenty and just want to get some playtime being by myself and enjoying this great game.. but then you have people which are already legendary, who just don't give a [Mod edited] of the loot and just like to mess with people..

    @sanni

    @sanni a dit dans as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast :

    As a team player, ganking one-man crews is ... well not a blast either. 😶

    Why don't you do us all a favor and at least crew up with one other person? A good sloop duo is a formidable opponent. 👍

    I play mostly duo or in a four man crew usually.. but we mind our own business unless the guy wants to put up a fight.. and I will never agress a solo player, even a two man crew just because I can doesn't mean I should.
    this time I was soloing because [Mod edited].. the game is a good place to relax, enjoy the sea and travel sitting on the eagle nest.

    the worst thing for me is when i'm just there.. without loot, as i'm just sailing most of the time without anything when i play solo.. you get to an encounter, so i just "sit" or "sleep" on the deck of the boat.. and the guy just kill you.. because.. yes.. why not... I really don't get where the fun is in that kind of behaviour except the "errr. it's a pirate game.. you selfish player"

  • Puck269
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    So not exactly sure you are making yourself a very sympathetic voice when if you get attacked under a white flag, but then go around stalking them and engaging in revenge pvp.

    Typically I wouldn't run a white flag if that is your mindset. I'd run blue or yellow..

    Your solutions won't solve the problem with being boarded. They will simply ram you and jump on your boat themselves. It will also add a couple problems with just friendly ladder issues, like jumping off the boat without lowering your ladder, etc.

    Simply, you just need to make sure you don't get in a situation for someone to climb your ladder.. especially on solo play.

    4 v 1 should always been a complete domination. It is possible to defend and defeat a 4 man crew, but you have to be real good, real lucky, and have a clear plan. Being careless and letting yourself be boarded by ladder, is not a problem for the dev team.

  • Flippin Loud
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    @e11evenbsouth said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    All I do is play solo and I used to be intimidated by the sight of a galleon. And always had my head on a swivel. However I have come up with my own way in dealing with them and I get pumped everytime I see a ship headed my way. I YouTube Marilyn Mansons beautiful people. Just the instrumental and play it through my headset while using the speaking trumpet. I'd say 90% of the time the galleons turn tail and flee. Having me in pursuit for about 20 minutes. You can hear them panicking. Its hilarious.

    Thats funny! We play 90s Pop Music over our speaking trumpet when going to kill someone (usually backstreet boys or nsync or something dumb like that 😂)

  • Hynieth
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    @el-perplexo said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    @hynieth
    [Mod edited]

    Nope, I read.

    i've nothing against the pvp component, i've something against [Mod edited], or about being 4 against one..

    Well that is part of the game, the freedom to attack and be attacked. That's what I stated but I guess you didn't read.

    i've actually something against cowardice i must say and i'm sporty, that's why i wanted revenge. [Mod edited].. it's part of the game.. i don't complain if I get robbed, and didn't mention it for a reason..

    I've never stated you being angry, I was merely asking you why you're posting this, what you're expecting with this post. I'm guessing you're new here but these kinds of posts have been going around. People asking for pitty because they're the lonely solo sloop.

    problem with you guys is that you find your fun messing with people which just wants to play the rules..

    The rules? These are things you just made up or? It's a game, its rules are mandated by its gameplay limitations. I'm not limited to board your ship and keep kiling you nor does it state this anywhere in the ULA.

    and i'm speaking about the one you can read everytime you get out of the tavern, if I put a white flag and I don't mess with you? why should you come over with three of your friends..?

    Because you have loot, bananas planks and cannonballs, and you're just sitting there not running and thinking your wite flag will just magically protect you.

    i'm not twenty and just want to get some playtime being by myself and enjoying this great game.. but then you have people like you, which are already legendary, who just don't give a s**t of the loot and just like to mess with people..

    I'm 37 if you're wondering, have a wife and children, a few spare hours per day and a good group of friends who re up for some fun on the high seas.
    I love this game as it is right now and right now I have the CHOICE to attack you to board you and kill you over and over and over.
    Usually when I see a sloop parked somewhere (especially with sails and anchor down) I go for it, board it and see if there's anything interesting to gain from this.
    It's not my fault you make an easy target.

    Now If I see you in game I know I'm just going to kill you over and over again because as the rules in the tavern state. Settle it on the waves. (that's what those rules mean, settle it in game not on forums or trough X-box live via personal threats etc)

  • El Perplexo
    Master
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    @puck269 a dit dans as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast :

    So not exactly sure you are making yourself a very sympathetic voice when if you get attacked under a white flag, but then go around stalking them and engaging in revenge pvp.

    Typically I wouldn't run a white flag if that is your mindset. I'd run blue or yellow..

    Your solutions won't solve the problem with being boarded. They will simply ram you and jump on your boat themselves. It will also add a couple problems with just friendly ladder issues, like jumping off the boat without lowering your ladder, etc.

    Simply, you just need to make sure you don't get in a situation for someone to climb your ladder.. especially on solo play.

    4 v 1 should always been a complete domination. It is possible to defend and defeat a 4 man crew, but you have to be real good, real lucky, and have a clear plan. Being careless and letting yourself be boarded by ladder, is not a problem for the dev team.

    I'll check for yellow or blue, but having seen the turnover from when we were 1000 and now make me think a bit about what I expected from the game and what it is right now.. my big mistake was to think it will stay the same as the very first run I had on the game two years ago.
    like the other guy says, if there can't be fun for everyone the way they want (even my voice is just that I want to do the boring stuff because it's just the best sailing game created and I like that) there is no much reason to continue trying to enjoy the game when there are tons of other.
    I just get that people are upset about a pve only proposition because they won't be able to be the troublemakers for guys who just don't care. at least that's what i'm hearing

  • DontTakeMyIoot

    Yes but you chose to play solo right? I'm in the same boat(pun intended) I love playing solo sometimes but you know what you signed up for when you signed in to play solo

  • Sgt Paloogoo
    Commander
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    As a solo sloop you are the prey of every other ship on the sea.
    Engaging pirates will lead to your obliteration.

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @hynieth said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    It's not my fault you make an easy target.

    What a great moral compass you have. Think about the people who say this in real life, but hey this is a game no reason to think people are living out their desires right.

    Now If I see you in game I know I'm just going to kill you over and over again because as the rules in the tavern state. Settle it on the waves. (that's what those rules mean, settle it in game not on forums or trough X-box live via personal threats etc)

    That's actually not. Settle it on the waves instead of personal attacks yes. Kill you over and over is not. That's kinda your choice, and many others. It's not 1 persons actions thats the problem, the over whelming vile bored PVP players who feel entitles to just attack people instead of engaging in actual content of the game, because it is some how beneath them to do so.

    Killing for sport, or one sided attacks with no balance between the 2 is not PVP.

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @swrm-flawless said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    Yes but you chose to play solo right? I'm in the same boat(pun intended) I love playing solo sometimes but you know what you signed up for when you signed in to play solo

    Yup and all those who can't for various reasons. Mental, social, physical reasons...too bad for them apparently. People should not be insulted, attacked or made fun of for playing solo. You don't know the reason(s). If this game allows solo play...which it does... they should maybe find it harder...but not have their game experience ruined by others. This isn't call of duty or PUBG as much as some people might want it to be.

  • Hynieth
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    @dragonsire2016 The PvP, looting ships attacking other pirates is actual content of the game. Might not be the reason you're playing it, and that's your preogative but it is part of the game!

    I often have more loot on board then my victims and often the figts end in "Hey how are you, yeah I'm fine and you?" conversations but nontheless I have the choise and will choose.

    I also love how everyone jumps on me for being super agressive while I'm actually the most fluffy huggable pirate out there, sure I maim and murder at times but more often then not I'll be social and talk to people, maybe steal a treasure worth stealing but never overly ganky. That's why I'll hunt down people like the OP.

    Assuming things and striking such a tone like you do will not be forgiven!

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @hynieth said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    @dragonsire2016 The PvP, looting ships attacking other pirates is actual content of the game. Might not be the reason you're playing it, and that's your preogative but it is part of the game!

    No it's a choice. Its not required. Your not forced. Attacking players not wanting to fight back because it interfere's with there game play, maybe allowed by the mechanics. But doesn't make it okay. Its supposed to be a part of the game...not the focus.

    I often have more loot on board then my victims and often the figts end in "Hey how are you, yeah I'm fine and you?" conversations but nontheless I have the choise and will choose.

    So? Most don't. You risk something...good for you. Your still forcing your game play style on someone else.

    I also love how everyone jumps on me for being super agressive while I'm actually the most fluffy huggable pirate out there,

    Murders hug kittens sometimes too...so what.

    sure I maim and murder at times but more often then not I'll be social and talk to people, maybe steal a treasure worth stealing but never overly ganky. That's why I'll hunt down people like the OP.

    Okay so your not as bad as others...so? Does this fix anything, you being not as bad?

    Assuming things and striking such a tone like you do will not be forgiven!

    Oh well, I'll try and sleep tonight with that looming over me.

  • Hynieth
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    @dragonsire2016 Quick Question, did you research before you bought this game?

    I get the feeling you thought you bought a completely different game and are blaming everyone for this except yourself.

    This isnt Cid Meyers pirates nor is this Assassins creed black flag. It's sea of thieves. An open world PvPvE game where everything goes.

    If someone wants to attack you they can, this game is comepletely openended, since the only things you unlock are cosmetics there's no reason to assume you HAVE to do anything.
    You speak as if everyone has to do missions in this game and level up. The game is so open ended that you don't actually have to do that. It's perfectly feasable to never pick up a mission go sailing and have fun. If you have fun by sinking ships and not picking up any loot well that's theyr Perogative, it's not my way of having fun, I like sailing around doing missions and being a pirate. (Trigger warning: this involves sinking some ships along the way) But I'm not telling PvP focussed players they are playing the game wrong. Why because there's no wrong way of playing this game.

    And that's where you and the OP are Ruffeling my Jimmies. Telling people what to do an what not to. Stop it, this isn't your game it's OUR game. We all play it and we're all different, stop trying to tell us how to play.

    Thank you and peace out!

    Flies Away!

  • WalperR
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    Playing solo is great. I find it more fun than playing with a crew, crews just get me killed and crash the ship into easily avoidable obstacles.

    The risks and dangers of playing solo are part of the charm. Outrunning and out manuevering galleons is a breeze, I find sloops far more dangerous.

    If you don't know what you're getting into playing solo in SoT, you bought the wrong game.

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @hynieth said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    @dragonsire2016 Quick Question, did you research before you bought this game?

    sure did. I avoided it for a few months debating to give it a go or not. There seemed to be some good content coming that would be fun.

    I get the feeling you thought you bought a completely different game and are blaming everyone for this except yourself.

    Pointing out flaws is not blame. Never said I don't enjoy myself I enjoy myself a lot. I've fought back if I needed to, I've also just jumped servers. if it comes a point I don't i quit.

    You speak as if everyone has to do missions in this game and level up.'

    People don't have to do mission in MMOs either. some will just go the the end through exploits or Power Leveling. For some that's okay.

    The game is so open ended that you don't actually have to do that. It's perfectly feasable to never pick up a mission go sailing and have fun. If you have fun by sinking ships and not picking up any loot well that's theyr Perogative

    Yup agreed. Their choice.

    It's not my way of having fun, I like sailing around doing missions and being a pirate. (Trigger warning: this involves sinking some ships along the way) But I'm not telling PvP focussed players they are playing the game wrong. Why because there's no wrong way of playing this game.

    Sure there is. Just not from the mechanics of the game.

    And that's where you and the OP are Ruffeling my Jimmies. Telling people what to do an what not to. Stop it, this isn't your game it's OUR game. We all play it and we're all different, stop trying to tell us how to play.

    That right our game, so stop telling us we need to b*******r and take what we get because its part of the game. PVP is unblanced...Balance it, you will see less complaints.

  • Puck269
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    @dragonsire2016 See, the way I see the game is that the other players are basically really intelligent AI (sometimes) that is my enemy.. or the difficulty in completing my tasks.

    It is a complicated AI that you can often times with your own actions, words, tone, and body language actually turn an enemy into an ally.

    Computer AI isn't that far along to be able to do such a thing. How many times playing a game do you feel the computer "cheats"? or doesn't follow the "rules".

    Lots of times.

    Why are we treating PvP any different? If they created an AI pirate.. that would board you.. then aggro onto you as soon as you spawned.. and stayed there until you killed it ot scuttled.. how would that be different from what we have?

    Because it is another person?

    When the ghost ship comes in... and drives by an island you are just doing quests on.. and sinks you for no reason... are the PvE people gonna start complaining about being unfairly attacked?

    This is what i don't understand about people complaining about the game's PvP.

    Be thankful for the jerk ships.. otherwise the game would be way too easy.

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @puck269 said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    @dragonsire2016 See, the way I see the game is that the other players are basically really intelligent AI (sometimes) that is my enemy.. or the difficulty in completing my tasks.

    It's not remotely the same. AI doesn't try to grief player. It doesn't try to cause havoc for no reason. Climbing on a ship and killing live stock and laughing isn't being a pirate. Sinking a ship for no profit, isn't pirate. Shooting and sinking a player out of boredom isn't pirate. So why would an AI be programmed to do that.

    It is a complicated AI that you can often times with your own actions, words, tone, and body language actually turn an enemy into an ally.
    Computer AI isn't that far along to be able to do such a thing. How many times playing a game do you feel the computer "cheats"? or doesn't follow the "rules".

    So dialog menus, gift giving any other trick used in various games. Pretty sure they are.

    Why are we treating PvP any different? If they created an AI pirate.. that would board you.. then aggro onto you as soon as you spawned.. and stayed there until you killed it ot scuttled.. how would that be different from what we have?

    They wouldn't keep coming back, they wouldn't hold vendetta etc. Pirates didn't kill for sport. Pirates also rarely killed each other. They certainly didn't see a boat...any boat and just sink it. AI will do what it's coded to, it's not a choice.

    When the ghost ship comes in... and drives by an island you are just doing quests on.. and sinks you for no reason... are the PvE people gonna start complaining about being unfairly attacked?

    That likely won't happen. Skelletons protect their island, and treasure. We are stealing it. Most likely scenario they will spawn at sea like the sharks. I'm not against a challenge. Again it's not malice and it won't be all the time.

    Is the shark evil? Do people overly complain about that or squids?

    This is what i don't understand about people complaining about the game's PvP.
    Be thankful for the jerk ships.. otherwise the game would be way too easy.

    No there is no reason to be thankful for jerks.

  • Puck269
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    @dragonsire2016 Pirates did a lot of things that we can't discuss (moderators will strike it against terms of use) that isn't in the game.

    However, pirates.. or other "barbarians" did pillage and destroy their enemy.

    So yes, creating an AI that would attack a crew would basically "kill" the chicken.. because they would either eat it.. or take it for themselves.

    They would stay on the ship spawn killing until a ship's supplies like wood and bananas are empty. They would wait for their ship to return to pick them up.. or maybe even steal your boat or run it aground to get any hidden items on the boat for it to float to the top.

    You would program an AI pirate to do that to a ship. Especially as a matter of difficulty. So far, all we've seen from the devs is the ability to program braindead skellies to aggro the nearest player, keep chasing them when in range to pathfind how to get there.. and if their banana's or health run out.. to turn tail and run for a period of time before returning to their spawn point or reaggroing.

    I really don't think we would get AI that would actively be able to do the things you think that it would do and be just as good as player threat.

    You will most likely just get a pirate ship like we'll probably get in cursed sails that will sail around and fire on anyone that gets within range. It won't care which flag you have on the boat, it will just attack whoever is close, like any of the islands.

    If you think of a player as doing the same thing.. and not get caught up on the fact that it is a player, not an AI then you will have a better time.

    If the dev team didn't want a hostile crew to be able to kill a chicken or just toss the stuff aside, they wouldn't make it able to occur. So you can't say that the devs wouldn't also put these "griefing" attributes into their super advanced AI if they were capable.

    You still haven't made a case as to thinking that any kind of NPC bot wouldn't be doing the same thing that these jerk ships are doing. I mean, listen to some of these guys... if they see a ship, they are going to attack it. They have simplified braindead AI.. and they are human controlled. They don't even take the treasure for themselves.

  • Lord DanielW
    Ship Mate

    @hynieth

    I love this game as it is right now and right now I have the CHOICE to attack you to board you and kill you over and over and over.

    "you want the game as it is? But why? Honestly why? Because YOU like it and because it Helps YOU. Will it help me? Us? The other sloopers who work with the game instead of against people? No it wont* the needs of the few does not nor will it ever outweigh the needs of the Many*"

    " Telling people what to do an what not to. Stop it, this isn't your game it's OUR game. We all play it and we're all different, stop trying to tell us how to play. (and when the game is perfect as it is)! "

    Awaiting reply...

  • Dragonsire2016
    Seafarer

    @puck269 said in as a solo player, being ganked by a four man crew is ... well not a blast:

    You still haven't made a case as to thinking that any kind of NPC bot wouldn't be doing the same thing that these jerk ships are doing. I mean, listen to some of these guys... if they see a ship, they are going to attack it. They have simplified braindead AI.. and they are human controlled. They don't even take the treasure for themselves.

    lol very true. Different between can and would. You collect a chicken put it on beach does a skeleton go kill it? The devs are not trying to punish other players. The skeletons don't go out of their way to kill you either.

    I tend to ignore most of these players...I'm like anyone else a good ship battle in a storm can be exhilarating, I'm not against pvp...just restricting some of the worst behavior.
    Give me an island that considered PVP with dailies for land fights, when I'm in the mood I am all over it. I go there I know what I am getting into. And if it is pVP any where anytime than they need to find a way to balance it. the loss shouldn't always and only be on the defending side.

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  • Puck269
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    @dragonsire2016 I agree that there should be more risk involved on the attackers side.

    But I think that could be brought out by incentivizing players to hoard stuff on their ship and not turning it in at the outpost.

    Make a chest (and all sellable items) increase in value to longer it stays on the ship by distance traveled. This could even make castaway chests worth stealing if they've traveled a fair amount of distance.

    Right now, there really isn't much reason to hold onto loot on the boat except to get the 20chest achievement. Once you have that, you want to empty as soon as possible to reduce risk.

    I also think that the ability to clip chests through each other and the boat should be stopped. That way having more space on the boat is more valuable. Right now, a sloop can hold just as much loot as a galleon, which imo is not right. I mean, you can't even place a chest in a plant on an island, but you can stick a chest through the hull so it is sticking outside the boat.

    Those are actually my top requests for the basic game improvement standpoint that doesn't require adding "content" such as new questlines and story.

  • Stratcat51
    Marauder

    Still say the game needs balancing on collective crew pvp histories, putting crews with similar pvp score with each other.

  • Puck269
    Master
    Insider
    Founder

    @stratcat51 Nah, because I don't think there is a way to differentiate between who fires first.

    You would put people who defend themselves in combat higher zones, when they just might be trying to ward off someone being the aggressor.

    It also makes those that simply roll over or havn't run into people be on a server that is "easy mode" without ever learning how to defend themselves well.

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