i haven't had a chance to play yet, with 17 more minutes of work ahead. i've watched a bit on twitch and it looks like everything i've been hoping for from this game. massive sea battles between friendly and enemy ships, heck yeah!
When you thought It couldn't be harder
Just joined a galleon and a brig in the Wilds. It was a lot of fun for everyone except for some player on the galleon screaming at his team the whole time. No idea why they play with a person like that. Wave after wave after wave. It took about an hour but it was so much fun! I had to talk myself into calling it a night before I made trouble for myself tomorrow.
We had a good time, did the Wild's and Ancient Isles with our galleon and an allied brigantine, got 16/25 so I don't think it will be difficult. I think this is the best thing they've added yet, love how the alliance system works, absolutely spot on, love the new loot, new ships, new cosmetics, etc. I don't think it'll be an issue getting two ships with the same sails to win a battle.
Skeleton ships are hard for you? lol people!
Yesterday me and my friend (2 people) on one Brig, we are defeated 2 waves (4 ships) and last boss. It was not easy, but not harder than fighting against PvP galleon.
So if you are good in PvP, it's not hard for you. If you are not good in PvP, sorry, train your skills.Now i waiting from Rare, when they'll up difficult level of the Skull forts.
Sorry but this had me creasing? What's your tactic? Just slam them with cannon balls? Did you board it? You know they repair holes yeah? Got all the commendations today practically on one ship (Galleon and Brig) (minus alliance ones (sloop)) just get some barrels, about 60 planks, you don't even need cannon balls 😂 just board, blow the barrel at the bottom of the ship and protect the holes (take Nanas) and bosh, job done, just raise your sails and have one person bailing and repairing and if you die, help out
@emerald-hyper said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
So since the new update released everyone would go and try to attack the skeleton ship and get the loot right? Well its not really that easy as you have to take down more than 3 ships and sink them. So with the alliance it couldn't be that hard, but you be wrong, as each ship would use so much resources that even if you pass the 2 wave your most likely going to run out of supplies. Even with 1 gallon and 2 brigs it still isn't easy. But what really take the cake was the unlucky for everyone when we started battling the Meg just shows up in middle of battle and screws over mostly all of us as we didn't have enough planks, bananas or cannon balls. In the end you still get salt in the wound because even with the alliance you still get killed by friendly fire from swords, guns, and cannon shots from the other ships. Overall, its best to get a huge group of people to do 3 gallons, that be the best way to survive the most.
We did it on a brigantine today with no other ships helping. First and only skeleton ship encounter I did thus far.
I do think other cannonball effects will play heavily into how things go, but we did the entire encounter from start to finish, and had FOUR other brigantines come up at the very end and start trying to snatch loot... We had to sink them as well and we still had around 60 cannonballs left plus what we each had on us.
We had a brilliant Alliance, all working together when someone’s ship sank they just jumped on another picking up the dropped loot. Finished all waves, sailed back to the outpost still carrying 100 cannonballs and got a mahoosive amount of loot handed in.
Next server was like a ghost town with only 1 other ship coming to battle the AI. The Meg appeared, knocked us both off the ship, it sailed away in a circle so the mermaid didn’t spawn, we couldn’t catch the boat, the Meg ate our fully laden boat, we gave up lol.Been looking forward to this update but our first encounter has pretty much put me off even trying to do this event. For context I'm normally part of a two man crew and as we had a well-stocked sloop and nothing better to do at the end of the night figured we may as well at least see what the new skelly ships were like. As no-one else was around we went in by ourselves and had no illusions this was going to be anything other than a massacre.
What we got though was a farce. Two ships spawned in (the rising from the depths stuff is very cool and looking forward to that being a random encounter) and immediately opened up with cursed cannonballs. More specifically the dancing curse variety. That was that, couldn't do a damn thing as we just got hit with 'em over and over until the boat sank. Frustrating doesn't even come close to describing it...
Closest thing I can compare it to is the seemingly endless stream of games back in the 80's with horrendously unfair and cheesy boss battles. Just saps goodwill towards the rest of the game, at least it does for me. Don't get me wrong, there's clearly some good stuff here even if there's a tendency for the skellys to go nose first into big rocks. But IMO some balancing is urgently needed to make the cursed stuff much rarer. These fights shouldn't be easy and doing them solo should be harder still but in 2018 there really shouldn't be an instant loss condition without at least a chance to avoid (and, ideally, recover) from it.
@emerald-hyper said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
So since the new update released everyone would go and try to attack the skeleton ship and get the loot right? Well its not really that easy as you have to take down more than 3 ships and sink them. So with the alliance it couldn't be that hard, but you be wrong, as each ship would use so much resources that even if you pass the 2 wave your most likely going to run out of supplies. Even with 1 gallon and 2 brigs it still isn't easy. But what really take the cake was the unlucky for everyone when we started battling the Meg just shows up in middle of battle and screws over mostly all of us as we didn't have enough planks, bananas or cannon balls. In the end you still get salt in the wound because even with the alliance you still get killed by friendly fire from swords, guns, and cannon shots from the other ships. Overall, its best to get a huge group of people to do 3 gallons, that be the best way to survive the most.
Yep found the same thing today.
We had a brig, met one over there. The ships sunk during the fight, left no loot as they sunk. Second waves, the skele ships came in two's. The other brig left and we were there fighting 2 skele ships. Got to the captain ships, Meg showed up also, we had 256 cannon balls, 100 planks and 100 bananas, after fighting these double waves alone, we used all 100 planks, the Meg smashed us, but the real hard bit is the drunken cannon balls, you are vomiting all over each other, can't repair and under constant hammering from 2 skele ships and a Meg.
Bonus though, we got to keep our castaway chest, but had no boat, so we kegged ourselves as a crew to say goodbye.
Was it worth the effort... no way, hopeless to do for loot!
This will die off quickly IMO as no reward for the casual players, bit of a shame as its a brilliant concept.
Anyone actually win and get the end reward?
@grimmycool said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
This will die off quickly IMO as no reward for the casual players, bit of a shame as its a brilliant concept.
Anyone actually win and get the end reward?
There is a reward for the casual player, it really isn't that hard to win the battle.
You get around 10-15K in GH and OoS as reward for sinking the captain and winning the battle.Overal response:
IMO the battles are fine, you just got to treat them as a PvP battle instead of thinking it's some easy AI battle.I do agree though with the 3 commendations where you have to wear the same sails as an alliance, that's just r******d. I don't mind working together with one or multiple crews but forcing people to wear the same cosmetics, that's just a 1% chance of happening. Think a lot of people aren't even going to bother on getting them since it requires them to do the story instead of the battles.
Rest of the commendations are fine though.
@aarghmaargho said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
@grimmycool said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
This will die off quickly IMO as no reward for the casual players, bit of a shame as its a brilliant concept.
Anyone actually win and get the end reward?
There is a reward for the casual player, it really isn't that hard to win the battle.
You get around 10-15K in GH and OoS as reward for sinking the captain and winning the battle.Overal response:
IMO the battles are fine, you just got to treat them as a PvP battle instead of thinking it's some easy AI battle.I do agree though with the 3 commendations where you have to wear the same sails as an alliance, that's just r******d. I don't mind working together with one or multiple crews but forcing people to wear the same cosmetics, that's just a 1% chance of happening. Think a lot of people aren't even going to bother on getting them since it requires them to do the story instead of the battles.
Rest of the commendations are fine though.
Yep you need to be very lucky with these. No one will go to an outpost to change his sails for the commendation if you ask him to (not the randoms that never speak anyway). You need to hope that the players who fight there have the right sail and join the alliance.
@blindnev said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
Yep you need to be very lucky with these. No one will go to an outpost to change his sails for the commendation if you ask him to (not the randoms that never speak anyway). You need to hope that the players who fight there have the right sail and join the alliance.
And then pray that not another random decides to join you alliance who does not have the sails equipped.
You can do the accomendation for 99% and then have some random screw it up because you can't lock an alliance.
@aarghmaargho said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
@blindnev said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
Yep you need to be very lucky with these. No one will go to an outpost to change his sails for the commendation if you ask him to (not the randoms that never speak anyway). You need to hope that the players who fight there have the right sail and join the alliance.
And then pray that not another random decides to join you alliance who does not have the sails equipped.
You can do the accomendation for 99% and then have some random screw it up because you can't lock an alliance.
Oh you are right, that makes it even worse...
@aarghmaargho said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
@blindnev said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
Yep you need to be very lucky with these. No one will go to an outpost to change his sails for the commendation if you ask him to (not the randoms that never speak anyway). You need to hope that the players who fight there have the right sail and join the alliance.
And then pray that not another random decides to join you alliance who does not have the sails equipped.
You can do the accomendation for 99% and then have some random screw it up because you can't lock an alliance.
I feel bad but after organizing one yesterday that finally paid off, I kegged an unresponsive sloop on its way to us at the skele ships because it had default sails and I didn't want to lose the commendation again.
@tre-oni
If that's what it takes to get the commendation done, so be it.Adding that commendation without adding the option to make an alliance private was a bad move, adding that commendation at all was a bad move imo.
People who are trying to get the commendation done will be extremly hostile towards others who didn't have the required sail equiped.
The idea on the sails really isn’t difficult if folks would help spread the word. If you do Wanda’s quest, you should have three sets of sails, one for each region. When you go to fight in a particular region, raise the matching sails. If most people do that, the sail matching commendations will be a cakewalk.
@genuine-heather said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
The idea on the sails really isn’t difficult if folks would help spread the word. If you do Wanda’s quest, you should have three sets of sails, one for each region. When you go to fight in a particular region, raise the matching sails. If most people do that, the sail matching commendations will be a cakewalk.
You'd think
@genuine-heather said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
The idea on the sails really isn’t difficult if folks would help spread the word. If you do Wanda’s quest, you should have three sets of sails, one for each region. When you go to fight in a particular region, raise the matching sails. If most people do that, the sail matching commendations will be a cakewalk.
It shouldn't be that hard, but there are way too many variables.
And especially the fact that alliances can't be private means that you can do 99% of the commendation and then get screwed on the last seconds because some random decides to join your alliance without the sails.My crew did it in a solo brigantine. Key is to board constantly and resupply, we ended up running out of planks on the last ship thought and had to keep bailing on the way to a nearby island before turning in. We managed though lol. Also get loads of kegs ahead of time we had like 15 so when we had no cannon balls it didn't matter at all!
@blindnev That’s 100% false. First try I was in a 3 ship fleet and we all went back and changed sails. Second try, same thing only 2 ships. Not to say that it’s that easy but everyone complaining about this commendation should spend less time whining and more time trying. I like how every event has at least one of those commendations that require some effort.
@mc-rossco said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
Those cursed cannon balls are so stupid.. the dancing one is the worst, stops the crew from doing anything they fire them non-stop it's stupid.
Um....... that’s the idea :D
@lizalaroo said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
Um....... that’s the idea :D
It's a stupid idea.
@mc-rossco I like it hahaha... dumb and silly. But boy oh boy is it infuriatingly funny!
Never had such belly laughs and frustration at the same time!
Utter, utter chaos and loved every moment of it.
@sytoki said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
@blindnev That’s 100% false. First try I was in a 3 ship fleet and we all went back and changed sails. Second try, same thing only 2 ships. Not to say that it’s that easy but everyone complaining about this commendation should spend less time whining and more time trying. I like how every event has at least one of those commendations that require some effort.
It's more than effort. Its stupidly specific.
Skeletonships are tied to irl timeframes, as well as in game timeframes. You better hope to god that if you have a daily schedule, you can slot some time at every interval.
If you manage to get on, organize that whole c****y commendation, get supplies, find ships to work it with you, and show up while the timeframe is still up, you better once again hope to god that that time window isn't close to the next timeslot if it rolls over it'll let you finish, it'll even spawn ships all the way to the end, and you'll get nada.
In that limited window as well you better hope to god one of your ally ships doesn't decide to wreck it for you and ally that little ship off the way with no proper sail just as you're finishing. You get nada.
The wilds matching fleet commendation, (which I should have but don't due to the above brokenness) is slotted for 4am - 8am est and 4pm - 8pm est timeframe. So unrealisitically, I work afternoons and won't be waking up at extra early to try and slot this in again before work, after working a night before. Or I work mornings and get home with an hour to spare on the timeframe, and getting everything together and setting up gives you nothing because the time will likely roll over.
Guess I just need to "try" more though.
@tre-oni The timeframes caught me off a bit, but they’re doable. It wouldn’t be much of an event if by the end of it everyone who logged on at some point during it got all the unlocks. It’s definitely possible to rack up a few bilge rat bucks by they end of the event, but getting all of the commendations will be difficult because that’s the point.
This is coming from a guy who works all week and has to take care of his younger brother on the weekends. These events weren’t designed to be easy, they were designed to be challenging. Everyone who wants the cosmetic unlocks has to face the challenges, as frustrating as they may be.
Try again.
The Skeleton Ships don't follow any of the worlds physics- making it impossible to strategize. I still don't know how many waves there are...it's just time consuming. Not to mention the time it takings to find anyone to alliance with... plus no SKULL FORTS!?
One step forward- two steps back
@sytoki said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
@tre-oni The timeframes caught me off a bit, but they’re doable. It wouldn’t be much of an event if by the end of it everyone who logged on at some point during it got all the unlocks. It’s definitely possible to rack up a few bilge rat bucks by they end of the event, but getting all of the commendations will be difficult because that’s the point.
This is coming from a guy who works all week and has to take care of his younger brother on the weekends. These events weren’t designed to be easy, they were designed to be challenging. Everyone who wants the cosmetic unlocks has to face the challenges, as frustrating as they may be.
Sorry, I'm not subscribing to the "its supposed to be hard therefor this makes sense" mentality.
It's just horribly constructed. Nothing hard about it, it's design is just flawed. This is their update content released for cursed sails, gated behind real times of day. These aren't a weekly bilge rat event..
This would be like if actual bilge rat weeklies were required to be done on a Friday between 10 and 2. You work between then? Sorry but this is supposed to be hard.
Earlier today I joined a galleon of randoms and eventually had a decent alliance going with a brig and 2 scoops. After a lot of fighting on the last wave meg came, not only 1 but 2 megs! All this while fighting the last wave with the boss! Soooo frustating to lose out on the loot but it was really enjoyable was such a good battle, I don't think it can get much harder than that haha 😫
Bit of an update regarding the sails ones, got in a game with some lads from these fair forums including @Edemardil and we managed to get 4 ships working together all with the correct sails, so with a bit of communication and coercion it's very doable, difficult sure, but doable, and who doesn't love a challenge?!
@reedski said in When you thought It couldn't be harder:
Bit of an update regarding the sails ones, got in a game with some lads from these fair forums including @Edemardil and we managed to get 4 ships working together all with the correct sails, so with a bit of communication and coercion it's very doable, difficult sure, but doable, and who doesn't love a challenge?!
I was on the solo sloop. We bought all those ships lol. We had friends on all but one. Good job being patient with those guys too lol they can't all be savages like us.
Also, we did two before we invited you in and tonight I did three again. First one with a sloop ( we were on a galleon ) and the second with a different sloop. One Galleon and one sloop, good crews and fully stocked will hammer through these skeletons.
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