I would like to see Rare's devs and twitter accounts stop promoting and celebrating streamers using the ability to stream to server hijack and create impromptu pve only servers.
I get that the excited players, with followers, and the shiny images generated by "world record" efforts are great for marketing but they so badly misrepresent what the average player will ever experience in SoT. Why are only streamers allowed to exploit their way into a reasonable shot of a PVE only server?
@volantalpaca956 so reverse stream sniping?
@volantalpaca956 just a small advice, if someone includes "(players need not reply)" in the thread name, it will usualy go very wrong for the OP...
@sir-lotus There's nothing to go right or wrong. This is a forum for players to feedback to rare. I don't require the input of any player on the matter. You're free to concur or not with my feedback but whether you do or don't is inconsequential.
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What you can experience in SOT is for everybody different . And streaming cannot transfer the happy inner gut feel a person can have.On the contrary, some streams are toecurling boring because the main character isn't able to explain nor bring over his or her inner feel ...If...he or she even feels it...
You have to try on your own motion to find what is making so many people to come back to this game every evening or day and what or who makes them leave the game with a happy smile on their face...
For me, personally , i watch a stream of a game i don't have just to see if a game would suit me , but having the game myself then i simply don't watch others but just play and discover it by myself.
@volantalpaca956 said in Dear Rare (players need not reply) Why do Streamers get preferential treatment?:
@sir-lotus You're free to concur or not with my feedback but whether you do or don't is inconsequential.
and that's exactly the part of your problem, that you don't seem to understand. That statement is not true at all. If you're asking for changes, based on your feedback, you need support from as many players as you can get. Changes don't happen based on one player's wishes.
@volantalpaca956 said in Dear Rare (players need not reply) Why do Streamers get preferential treatment?:
@sir-lotus There's nothing to go right or wrong. This is a forum for players to feedback to rare. I don't require the input of any player on the matter. You're free to concur or not with my feedback but whether you do or don't is inconsequential.
So don't put "players need not reply" in the title.
It's actually a discussion forum - forum being the key word here - a group of people sharing ideas and opinions.
This is actually the place where players SHOULD discuss. You're opinion should be directed via a support ticket or a message via Twitter to Joe or Mike really.
Otherwise you come across as arrogant and dismissive. Same for your second message sadly.
@sir-lotus Oh son, I don't expect anything to change. I'm simply giving rare feedback which is why they've established this. When I said it's inconsequential I'm obviously referring to how consequential it is to me.
I mean honestly, its not like you really opposed anything I said, you just chastised me for stating up front that I really dont care what other players have to say about it.
@princes-lettuce yea its been a thing for a while. My issue comes up with Rare highlighting it and celebrating it with their official accounts because its so non representative of what players can reasonably expect to experience.
@volantalpaca956 said in Dear Rare (players need not reply) Why do Streamers get preferential treatment?:
@princes-lettuce yea its been a thing for a while. My issue comes up with Rare highlighting it and celebrating it with their official accounts because its so non representative of what players can reasonably expect to experience.
I mean... On the one hand I get why they do it. But you're kinda right. It doesn't represent the game at all.
Wait I thought players wanted PvE servers.. am i wrong? If they actually get implemented then I doubt you’ll be able to get loot. At least without a loot nerf. But still temporarily players making their own PvE servers isn’t ruining the game. All that need to happen is the “world record” holders need to disclose the fact that they did it without threat of an enemy And with the entire server hoarding loot. Not as impressive obviously. Also “stream sniping” is an entirely different issue in my opinion. The solution for that would be a time buffer for streams so people can’t see what they are doing real time.
@sgt-palooggoo said in Dear Rare (players need not reply) Why do Streamers get preferential treatment?:
Well, streamers are a key part in Rare's strategy for propagating SoT.
If they stop streaming SoT because of stream Sniping then less people will see SoT.
Which comes down to less new customers for SoT.
True. But then I feel like they should tune the attitude down a bit. They are always on about how anti-PvE they are, but clearly this is about money. Which I get, I mean, they need money. But still... I don't know. Feels a bit weird to let people promote your game when it's not really the actual game they're playing. If I bought it based on a streamer I watched, I'd be really disappointed.
@princes-lettuce i don't think understand this tbh.
A server buyout isn't something streamers pay for to Rare. It's an in-game technique a lot of us non-streamers use, if we want to sail with more friends. You approach another ship and negotiate with them, so that they invite one of you into their crew and leave you their ship. In return you usualy offer them some loot or an athena's voyage, that onr of your crew drops for them in another server they join.
Streamers have always been placed on a pedestal by themselves and by their fans. At the same time, every streamer I have ever known has had to deal with sniping in online games. The request to a game company that it somehow be dealt with is just asinine to me.
If someone is streaming and I see them PvPing on stream I can, literally in a minute, create a Twitch account with a name similar to theirs and start being obnoxious in their chat. That would lead to a report from them to Rare/Microsoft about it, and in turn would lead to a totally innocent person being reported for "stream sniping".
I get it, sniping exists. I played Rust with a pretty big streamer at one time, and we CONSTANTLY were defending ourselves against stream snipers. The thing is, we expected it...we dealt with it. If you are good at the game it adds to the challenge. Since every streamer seems to believe they are game-gods/goddesses you would think they could handle it just fine, or if they were bested just change servers and move on if need be. How can you blame someone else for literally broadcasting your position to the world when someone uses that to approach you?
I did not clip this, but this is a prime example of what I am talking about: https://clips.twitch.tv/BetterBlatantBatteryDuDudu
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** Oops, did not notice the swearing because I tuned out all of the extra chatter when I found that. Sorry! **
You are not better than anyone else. You are broadcasting your position to everyone in the world. Do not be surprised when someone comes at you after learning where you are. I implore you to choose wisely.
Take that for what it is worth... get angry if you want... but at some point let the common-sense takeover. Change servers, or deal with the snipers.
@drbullhammer I'm sorry that you're affected so by my opinion, but I never said anything was easy. Thanks.
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@drbullhammer As is your entire reply to my thread, tbh. And yet I didn't call for anyone to silence you. Telling.
