Remove Letters of Recommendation

Sorry dude @xultanis-dragon , you refuted yourself and confirmed my point.
Here are your "reasons" put together that defeat each other:

@xultanis-dragon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

They limit their function now. I stated that at the start it did nothing but let players skip the grind part of the game and now that we have emissary flags there is honestly no reason to keep the recommendations in the game.

It used to take hundreds of hours of game time to reach pirate legend. You can reach pirate legend in 3 days now. Reputation is not a grind anymore so there is no reason to have it.

Its all part of the experience but players were using the letters to skip it. Which means now they avoided a crucial learning curve of the game and will probably never learn it, which means they will instead have a better understanding of the game but will instead complain about it.

So you say that the letters had at the beginning the effect that players avoided crucial game experiences, although you never came up with the point that people had to earn the needed doubloons in the first place, and only under the most optimistic circumstances would they have been able to avoid other players entirely and crucial game experiences.

But also you say that they no longer are needed since the game itself is too easy, thus the letters have lost their impact on the game and are no longer a way to avoid crucial game experiences.
So, essentially you are saying that there is no reason for your suggestion in the first place. Bravo. I agree, the only reason left is aversion and purist attitude.

@xultanis-dragon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

He is not strawmaning, hes right. Alliance servers pull players out of rotation that would other wise be playing with other players.

He is doing that as you are now, since we were talking about Alliances in general, not about Alliance servers and even if we were talking about them, people playing there would stop playing altogether and never stay as "part of some kind of rotation". Get it, boy, some people like only parts of the game and go for great lengths to enjoy it somehow and if you not agree with that, then wave bye bye to them and say hello to empty servers nevertheless. They. Are. Not. Forced. To. Play.

@xultanis-dragon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

Before the introduction to letters everyone agreed that you really didn't understand the games frustration until grinding the last 5 levels of Merchant alliance. Having to keep those animals safe, not losing the crates from sinking.

What do you want to tell me? I leveled Merchant Alliance up to 75 mostly alone because I like to do their voyages since they are the shortest of all and I can do them now and then. And I sometimes just wanted to chill, alas, it did not alway work and I had to sink some peeps to return to chilling.
Still, I want to keep the choice, people also want the choice to fight against other players, this is not Fortnite.

@xultanis-dragon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

Its happening now as we speak "I'm Pirate Legend Athena 20, so I know what I'm talking about, this is why this game is horrible and these are all the changes that need to be done" check the players stats and he has less than 3m meters sailed.

Exaggerated and only possible if others carry you there. Sorry, no point.

@xultanis-dragon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

The game progress is horizontal and with that horizontal progress comes the experience learned from that progression. By removing the progression you remove the period of learning.

You already stated that the letters are needless in your opinion because the game seems too easy for your taste. You can no longer state this without lying. Sorry, no point.

@xultanis-dragon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

There are gems everywhere, you can fish or turn in fish that you gather. Are you planning on completing the commendations one day? If you are then why bother buying the levels? By completing the commendations you'll reach level 50 anyways. So again, the letters aren't needed.

There is one, try harder to read and comprehend what others say:

... they help a bit to progress even when people were not able to play enough ...

And as I already said similarly: I want to keep the choice, since we get choices in this game to tackle this and that one way or another. And I am working on commendations, but I like to be done with one or the other, and to have a choice here if I want the cosmetics first or the titles.

@faceyourdemon said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@galactic-geek economy is not just the trade between players with have an economy with the npc and logic.
So your point is not valid on this one.

Please read some stuff about economy, this is insulting to have to answer to.

@dekeita said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@schneebaer17905 was there a point to any of that? I can ramble for much longer if you'd like.

You can do with your time whatever you want and feel good even at sorting beans in a can. But I will not repeat myself, you have to read again for yourself and I am not endorsing the behavior of some wannabe leaders of repeatedly speaking falsehoods until people give up and believe every guff, but feel free to waste your time on that.

@combatxkitty said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

Arnt these only buy-able once a month? I do agree with you, leveling up is soooo much easier now they are kind of pointless. I say kind of because I do think they can still benefit some like solo players or people who really do not get on as much as they would like, its just an extra little push really at this point, I remember back when they first came out and it was not a once a month thing, that was silly.

I do not think the removal of them would be devastating by any means but also do not think them being available is a big enough deal to spend time to remove. I dont know, just my thoughts.

That is basically my point too. Not hard to understand, but some peeps want their view to be the only valid one.

@faceyourdemon it's very true. I honestly wish they would make it harder to get to pirate legend maybe even add a four emissary requirement.

@silentboops said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@faceyourdemon it's very true. I honestly wish they would make it harder to get to pirate legend maybe even add a four emissary requirement.

For what reason? Being a pirate legend is nothing one can be proud of, there is no benefit, you get another outfit and that is it, there is nothing to be had, no hideout, nothing more you can buy to make life a bit easier, like storage crates or rowboats to simply give you some quality-of-life benefit that is not game changing, but would be a welcome thanks for grinding your back off.

Currency sinks are often asked for, this qualifies and seems hardly problematic. Keep it in, and come up with more sinks that are also not game breaking.

I agree with the emissary it is extremely not necessary to have the letters of recommendation. I hope it will encourage more people to have an emissary more

@galactic-geek said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@mewgarb 1 outfit and that's it?

What rock have you been living under?

New hair dyes
Ghost outfit
Ghost tools
Ghost weapons
Ghost ship set
Legend outfit
Legend tools
Legend weapons
Legend ship set

Nope. Try not to stare too much into the sun, it can blind you.
You get one single outfit. Period. Ask people what they get for becoming pirate legend, read the Wiki of SoT.
Of course, you become also eligible to buy some exclusive stuff, still, what is the take of this? It is the same as it was before, so it makes no difference if people reach pirate legend or not, alright, they can ride the hype train into oblivion and call every outfit awesome, whatever pleases them.

@galactic-geek
Look, your opinion is really dandy, and you can stare into whatever you want, and flush it then, but sadly it is not the answer to my reply to the suggestion that pirate legend should be harder to reach seemingly because of a feeling of exclusivity or braggadocio.

So yeah, keep going

@galactic-geek
Now derailing because you want to have the last word but have no clue what to say? Would you be so kind to keep your allegations out of the topic? Read my post again and try again.

@galactic-geek
Anything else? Or do you keep spamming now answers to statements I never made? Or want to keep playing psychologist by making remote diagnosis via forums?

@galactic-geek
Sorry, to bother you, but I never talked to you. I asked someone else what would justify his idea and all of a sudden you told me about your liking and I simply do not care about your liking else I would have asked you or everyone about theirs.

So, spare me and other your pseudo arguments by which you try to give your personal liking something like objectivity; I have better stuff to do.

@galactic-geek
Have I ever forbid you to answer?
I just like when people answer to my statements, what you are not doing. You even think that I would have insulted you, but I tell you something about insulting:
You cannot even comprehend the statement "becoming pirate legend gives one just a single outfit" because you understand it as "becoming a pirate legend gives one nothing besides a single outfit", whereas I merely said one plays the game the same way as before and nothing changes (one does the same quests as before, just with different names), and that is a big difference.

And by this you have insulted yourself, so why do you blame me for something you brought about yourself by repeatedly spamming here without any reference anymore to the topic? Be done already with your self presentation and bring something new to the table.

@mewgarb said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@galactic-geek said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@mewgarb 1 outfit and that's it?

What rock have you been living under?

New hair dyes
Ghost outfit
Ghost tools
Ghost weapons
Ghost ship set
Legend outfit
Legend tools
Legend weapons
Legend ship set

Nope. Try not to stare too much into the sun, it can blind you.
You get one single outfit. Period. Ask people what they get for becoming pirate legend, read the Wiki of SoT.
Of course, you become also eligible to buy some exclusive stuff, still, what is the take of this? It is the same as it was before, so it makes no difference if people reach pirate legend or not, alright, they can ride the hype train into oblivion and call every outfit awesome, whatever pleases them.

I am assuming you mean what you get as soon as reaching PL? As in you get the outfit, the peg leg,hook for reaching PL. It also unlocks Athena voyages and the PL tavern and you get a new shanty, so not just given an outfit :)

Dont get me wrong though becoming PL is certainly not something to put on your resume. I also see no reason to make the grind to it harder. As far as adding things to make game play easier for PL's well I think the devs have been pretty clear with how they do not want people to get advantages for leveling up but of course that does restrict them to purely cosmetics rewards which some may find not worth the time in leveling. I myself really enjoy cosmetics/outfits so that doesnt bother me.

@combatxkitty said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@mewgarb said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@galactic-geek said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@mewgarb 1 outfit and that's it?

What rock have you been living under?

New hair dyes
Ghost outfit
Ghost tools
Ghost weapons
Ghost ship set
Legend outfit
Legend tools
Legend weapons
Legend ship set

Nope. Try not to stare too much into the sun, it can blind you.
You get one single outfit. Period. Ask people what they get for becoming pirate legend, read the Wiki of SoT.
Of course, you become also eligible to buy some exclusive stuff, still, what is the take of this? It is the same as it was before, so it makes no difference if people reach pirate legend or not, alright, they can ride the hype train into oblivion and call every outfit awesome, whatever pleases them.

I am assuming you mean what you get as soon as reaching PL? As in you get the outfit, the peg leg,hook for reaching PL. It also unlocks Athena voyages and the PL tavern and you get a new shanty, so not just given an outfit :)

Dont get me wrong though becoming PL is certainly not something to put on your resume. I also see no reason to make the grind to it harder. As far as adding things to make game play easier for PL's well I think the devs have been pretty clear with how they do not want people to get advantages for leveling up but of course that does restrict them to purely cosmetics rewards which some may find not worth the time in leveling. I myself really enjoy cosmetics/outfits so that doesnt bother me.

Thank you for reading properly and not just making an argument for making an argument. That was my point. And yes, I forgot the shanty. My bad.
I was just pessimistically saying that the Athena voyages are the same voyages as before, this time cramped into a single one.
Oh, and the changes I briefly mentioned were not intended to make things easier, just to save some time, but that is a thin line, I know. Even if not, I enjoy the game too.

@galactic-geek said in Remove Letters of Recommendation:

@mewgarb This thread is about the Letters of Recommendation. Stop playing mind games, and get back on topic!

No mind game involved. Have fun.

I was playing with a new player a few nights ago. He'd only been playing for 2 days and was already a level 37 in gold hoarders. It took me months to get that far and took me a year to get to level 50 as the increase was so small from lvl 40 onwards.

@stroro That's exactly my point. New players can get PL way to easy nowadays. Like I've been taking my time. Really really taking my time. I've been playing like 3 weeks at most. I'm already half of the way to PL. Yeah it might only be cosmetics and stuff but the fact that it's so easy to get now is what has made it lose it's meaning. It's supposed to be this awesome title you get for doing everything this game has to offer, yet everyone can get it in like a week now. It should be harder to get so it has meaning again. So it's a badge of honor again. Something to be proud you got.

@galactic-geek I get that my good sir, but if these rewards feel like they took no effort to get they become stale and worthless. I mean look at the state of loot in WoW, it's just handed out now like candy and people are bored of it. I just don't want the same thing to happen to this game. Like there has to be a balance. It shouldn't be to hard or to easy to get. It just feels to easy right now is all. It's becoming more of a challenge to not get PL than it is to get it.

@galactic-geek Alright then, Any new pirates out there already PL or really close to it?

@xultanis-dragon
You just ignored every contradiction you made and now you try to convince people that you are right by stating that you are right, well, nothing else needs to be shown here. You should simply put a bit more effort into this, that it is not so insultingly obvious.

I made my points, you had nothing to oppose, so it seems you realized how pointless this topic is, although you will not agree on this, because you would have to concede your error.

By the way, these letters of recommendation were in the game before the emissary flags, have you confused something? And while we are at it, how about keeping allegations in your mouth? Having no arguments does not justify getting personal, so keep your fingers by yourself -- boy.