Summary of X018 Sea of Thieves Panel 11th November

@katttruewalker sagte in Summary of X018 Sea of Thieves Panel 11th November:

Will Arena be in the existing world?
Sea Dogs tavern will be a theoretical part of the main world and be the entry point, the mechanical choice about choosing the mode and the lore and story aspect, it's about competition coming to Sea of Thieves, want it to be talked about as an 'in world' aspect, so how do players get into this and matchmake for this experience?

There will be a choice on the login screen not in the world.

@KattTruewalker Can you do me a favour please? As I am not native speaker, I need some explanation, what do you mean by "theoretical part of the main world"?

I personally have no problem to choose one of the game modes in the main menu of the game, but I absolutely would love to visit the tavern in The Adventure, even if I could nothing do there really. Or do you think, it will be kinda like the Pirate Hideout, so it's not reachable by ship or even not reachable in The Adventure at all?

@skulliah Good points sir. I believe they will not just have it be only for competitive but they will add a few details to the over world of the game. If you notice carefully, DeMarco has potions on his belts. There's a chance that will be added to the game all around or maybe there's a mini game of pvp in the original world. Lots of ideas can come around, don't worry we as pioneers will gaurentee it won't just focus on the Arena alone.

@katttruewalker Thank you very much for your opinion about the stream! :-)

And people say i like to complain just for the sake of it... this is an unarguable step forward for the game as a whole, though i would prefer this tavern just was the main menu, with adventure mode and arena both joinable from it, rather than going to the tavern just to reamatchmake arena, because crews for either could be formed there, and they could even allow players still at the mm tavern to watch the arena matches somehow, or get some updated play by plays or something.

@katttruewalker I thought the discussion had during the stream on how this ‘arena mode’ was integrated was pretty confused. I may have misinterpreted but, at one point, Major Nelson said something like ‘so I’m not going to be picking a server from a menu’ - there was a sense that it would all be one seamless in-game experience. The response from Craig and Joe sounded like an agreement, ‘the new Sea Dogs tavern will exist in adventure mode’ but then the caveat was added that you’d pick the mode from the menu at the top of the game.

Perhaps this is not going to result in a separated player base focusing on PvP or PvE games (I really do hate these terms) and everything will continue to feel like a single world we can play in together but I’m very sceptical right now.

I also really hope that I’m wrong - been playing Rare games for almost all of that 30 odd year history and verge on being blindly loyal (I once had the number 1 ranked Syrupent in Viva Piñata!). Whilst I love Sea of Thieves and don’t really want to see the faults - the grind is almost impossible to ignore and I believe that is because the game is still too lacking in fun things to do and reasons to go and do them. A PvP faction is absolutely a great way to add much needed variety but I don’t think separating the game into different modes is the right direction.

@mancfoo said in Summary of X018 Sea of Thieves Panel 11th November:

@katttruewalker I thought the discussion had during the stream on how this ‘arena mode’ was integrated was pretty confused. I may have misinterpreted but, at one point, Major Nelson said something like ‘so I’m not going to be picking a server from a menu’ - there was a sense that it would all be one seamless in-game experience. The response from Craig and Joe sounded like an agreement, ‘the new Sea Dogs tavern will exist in adventure mode’ but then the caveat was added that you’d pick the mode from the menu at the top of the game.

Perhaps this is not going to result in a separated player base focusing on PvP or PvE games (I really do hate these terms) and everything will continue to feel like a single world we can play in together but I’m very sceptical right now.

I also really hope that I’m wrong - been playing Rare games for almost all of that 30 odd year history and verge on being blindly loyal (I once had the number 1 ranked Syrupent in Viva Piñata!). Whilst I love Sea of Thieves and don’t really want to see the faults - the grind is almost impossible to ignore and I believe that is because the game is still too lacking in fun things to do and reasons to go and do them. A PvP faction is absolutely a great way to add much needed variety but I don’t think separating the game into different modes is the right direction.

Right but adding a sanctioned activity with specific rules with the game enforcing them is much harder and nigh impossible to do in the open world. Having a seperate mode allows the control an arena mode needs to be viabley enforced and therefore fun because even if you lose you understand it was because of either luck, skill, or effort, and not because of an unnecesary uncontrolled variable.

Dont get me wrong i see the fun unexpected occurences can bring to the adventure mode, but they are two different ideals, that should probably be separated to have a true fair competition in the arena mode.

This doesn't mean that design assets being made now and in the future cant improve both modes at the same time either.

Think halo3 campaign, multiplayer and custom games. They all use the same assets. Does any one existing ruin another? No in fact i would argue the balance for the campaign weapon sets for battles with ai likely played a large role in the multiplayer being so balanced fun and successful (and ofcourse xbox live) and beyond that different gamer playstyles all get what they want. “Serious and dramatic” story, pvp matches, and fun and silly gameplay in custom games, which also allow a lot more than that too.

And custom games and forge where they take the assets the game has and let the community tweak and invent more to do with their game on an exponential level, Every game should embrace this ideal of less is more with their games, while also striving for a large quantity of quality content. It only makes sense..

A lot of games could learn from this type of stuff, and even though my halo comparisons dont run parallel to SoT’s development, hopefully it will be a better version of fortnites success, with more staying power to the adventure mode.

After seeing the conference of today , i'm more reassured than this afternoon...Call me daft , but it was something in the eyes of Mr Duncan that settled the nerves down. They have tested this in their own little circle of creativity ...Things are still going to be added or finetuned , no i was sceptical at first but i see that it will all gonna be allright ...Maybe not directly after release but it will be tweaked to make sure that every Pirate can have his/ her kicks out of this game....

Oh , and Mrs Truewalker , you forgot to mention one question...One Mexican asked to Mr Joe, how long will you be adding stuff to SoT? Mr Joe answered :" As long as People play"....Hahahahaaa, i will keep you to that promise because i'm going to play untill God Himself turns my light out , or untill a lesser god Mr Spencer pulls the plug out of the servers...

@katttruewalker thanks for this buddy😁

@skuldleif They confirmed you'll get rewards for defeating the kraken and meg, and emergent skeleton ships that roam the map are in. Plus the new gunpowder barrel that is 3 times more destructive is in as well.

@biter-wylie You can apply "organized teams using chat will destroy random teams" to literally any multiplayer game in existence.

@katttruewalker said in Summary of X018 Sea of Thieves Panel 11th November:

@darkmore111 From listening to the stream, it sounded like the arena will be constructed from elements within the world, an area where the shroud has drawn back and revealed new islands?

Its going to be a separate server instance with a much smaller map, likely re-using island assets but in different locations in a tighter configuration. Players will queue up in a separate queue and get dropped into the Sea Dog Tavern (lobby) until there are enough players to start the arena game. Once there is a winner, players will be able to return to the tavern and spend their winnings. The tavern will appear in the adventure side, but only for the purpose of managing the Sea Dog shop - you won't be able to queue up from here, you'll likely have to exit back to the main menu. That's my best guess.

Still not clear if the sea dog stuff will use doubloons, gold or a new 3rd currency (likely, given the silver coin being flipped around in the trailer).