Hate & Game Communities

@lady-aijou Alright, fair enough :)

@benjawenja I didn't read any of your post, but I do agree Rare is pretty lazy.

Also I'm glad you made mention that delaying private crews is a big mistake and Rare needs to get their c**p together.

Cheers and thanks for bringing these things up!

@rdizz To be honest, I there are a lot of games that I like (Halo 5, Destiny 2) that received a TON of hate for "being a huge disappointment". Whenever I say something positive about the game, people usually reply with something unintelligent about how 'I got sucked into corporate greed' or whatever. I just don't want to see this happen to Sea of Thieves, as it is the first game I have been able to genuinely enjoy because its community wasn't a depressing 6-pool of unhelpful complaints vents.

@mattydove74 I'm sorry, I think you have the wrong post... mine is about the negativity of gaming communities and how that negativity eventually causes the game to be unenjoyable.

... or was that sarcasm? I'm not very good at identifying that sort of thing.

@drunkpunk138 That would be a good idea! And as for your last remark, I have seen a lot of positive and constructive feedback lately, which, of course, is a good thing.

@mrbrocksego Well, it is nice when you do see a constructive remark, game community or not.

Ahoy there,

I was debating chiming in on this, but seeing as I'm in a middle ground regarding the matter, I thought I would share my opinion and perhaps pose to you a parallel viewpoint.

In my humble opinion, venting is not the problem. Whilst it may immediately sound like I am disagreeing with you, I implore you to read on, and you will hopefully see where this is going.

You said at the very start of your post this was not one for those who are "easily bothered by 'emotional' posts", which to me is strange. On the one hand you forewarn your audience to be that this is not for those who have issue with emotional posts, but what is ranting if not an emotional post (allbeit in a different manner than yours)?

Ranting, venting and "going off on one" as it were, is not an inherently negative occurrence by nature, and to desire suppression for this is to chastise for the emotions of an individual which have clearly become too much to contain... much like your original post, if I may be so bold. And at this point, I remind you, read on and you will see where this is going.

As you follow your post from top to bottom, and as we approach the half way mark, the more you see beyond the words and into the detail where the devil exists... you start to understand. You, good sir, are ranting about a matter that is something you yourself mentioned in your rant... *""They are literally just there to vent about things not many people care about", which when you look at your original post bares a striking resemblance to what you are posting against in the first place.

HOWEVER, I have implored you to read on, and this is where your original post gains credence. The moment that you turned you post from almost hypocritical in nature, to something that I can get behind. *"If you, reader, are someone who complains, please at the very least PLEASE provide some suggestion when you need to vent." and, true to word, you did... your solution was to ignore it.

This, dear sir, is the fundamental and important point.

Ranting is not bad, venting is not bad, showcasing any form of negative emotion is not bad... what makes it bad however is the failure for the rant to provide a point of improvement. These two points in your post are what makes it hold weight, the fact that releasing negative emotions for the sake of it does not resolve to over arching problems, and you should always attempt to resolve them with a suggestion (even if it's a dumb one).

But with this, I ask you dear sir, when you have viewed posts of ranting, of rage, of venting in anger and sorrow... have you really listened to the words that are said? Have you really understood the issues and what could potentially make them better which can be suggestive within the rant itself, or perhaps even unknowingly written among the rage?

Venting, ranting and raging are contextual. They provide the causality of the issue, the effect to the cause. What matters is what the cause is and how it can be fixed, as you so rightly eluded to in your original post. But venting, ranting, "whining/complaining" can be valuable when you see beyond the emotion and into the raw data of the thread.

I do not disagree with you in intent, only in substance. Hate does breed hate, but out of the ashes of the hate, good can rise... just like in war.

Yours,

Jessie "Realdawnseeker" Fawkes.

@lobane said in Hate & Game Communities:

I understand where you're coming from OP, and I will say that I agree with you in some respects. I do wish PEOPLE within gaming communities treated EACH OTHER with less toxicity. However, I disagree with a number of other points you make. And this is not directed just at you, the whole idea of 'whiners should go away' and 'if you don't have suggestions then don't complain' is nothing new or unique to this forum. But the truth is those types of posts are still very helpful....maybe not to others in the community, but certainly to the developers.

Absolutely. Let me also mention that the "whiners should go away" crowd are attempting to censor what they don't like to read.

@natsu-v2 No, It was a Starcraft joke. A 6-pool of Zerglings

@realdawnseeker I am very glad you took the time to write that, and yes, I did read all of it. It wasn't until today that I realized the irony of my post, and I do дрyгeciate honesty on any level, short of deceptive. As for your last remark regarding the feeling put into ranting, and how the suggestion is possibly hidden within the rant, I will take that into consideration when I view rant posts. Thank you for your constructive criticism.

Sincerely,
Benjawenja.

@lobane @JunkySandburger
As you both have noted, my post has indeed provided an atmosphere of contempt. As @DrunkPunk138 suggested, there could be a category among the Forums meant specifically for ranting/venting. Anyway, I thank both of you for your honest opinions.

@lobane Those are very good points you make in your long post (specifying because this is your second notification about something you are mentioned in). I also believe that knowing what the majority desires. I simply wish to express that I believe that majority should, at least in a few posts, provide some suggestions (e.g. "I hate feature 'x' because 'y'. I think Rare should 'z' to fix it".) Honestly, I do not think the 'y' is completely necessary, but it can be helpful to avoid that same type of problem in future updates and changes. I thank you for your honest opinion.

@benjawenja

The hypocrisy here is hilarious, the real funny part is I don’t think you meant this to be a joke post! Either way I got a kick out of it.

It all comes down to will Rare care or listen to such posts and the answer is no... I'm sure they realize when they read feedback they are always looking for player's suggestions but the posts you mention don't have any so they just ignore them

Forums are made for discussion, that is what this forum is right? General discussion? That kind of means no real subject, just general discussion about the game and that can be liking it or hating it. What you call spam really isn't, it is just discussing the game and it is actually the people that come in and say "Bye Felicia." that are the spammers. You don't have to respond, read or do anything in a thread you don't wish to. That is your right/freedom as a forum poster.