Rare you're killing your own game

These points do not suggest RARE is killing there game. 1.) Content - There is actually a lot of hours of content in this game (I am guessing you are exhibit A on this one as you have probably spent way more hours than most). 2.) Comestics killing a game is silly. If everyone can get something then people will get mad, if people did not get something in time, people will get mad. Cosmetics is a silly thing.

the only thing, that is possibly killing the game, is the lack of a solution for the hit registration. every other item should be dropped and the entire team should focus on fixing this issue. it's quite embarrassing how long it took them to place this on the known issues list.

if they allow their player base to continually be frustrated by this major issue. there won't be much of a player base left.

Damn you didn't make a bingo.
That Said, stop being so dramatic. Rare has crafted a game you want to play as opposed to a game you "Have" to play.
No skinner boxes, no grind to reach endgame and thus content, microtransaction content drops.

I think we're seeing a different game, but I see a game people are playing and still loving, what's dying here?

@luciansanchez82 said in Rare you're killing your own game:

Games been dying for so long I swear I must be the only person still playing

You're still play this game?
Is this not Club Penguin?, damn I'm signed into the wrong account again :)

edit: Some threads just keep coming round & round, time after time.
Dying?... Aye!... the skellies at the end of me pointy thing, that's what's dying.

@blazedrake100 said in Rare you're killing your own game:

@luciansanchez82
This is secretly sea of thieves 100. Every time someone makes a this game is dying post, it does, and rare secretly releases a new sea of thieves. We don't remember because we're not wearing our tinfoil hats to protect us from their mind waves

My favourite incarnation was version 42.
I was wearing me foil tricorn that day... ta matey I had a good chuckle!!!

@luciansanchez82 Right? I remember when it was "dead" a week after it released according to many. Then it died AGAIN so many times after. It's a zombie game now apparently.

OP has some decent stats. Being as such, I will refrain from mocking and shrugging the concern off.

It seems to me that players that have put so much time into a game, and reached a certain level of progression often feel that the game starts "dying". This happens with many games. It's important to understand, though, that the game isn't necessarily dying, but the spark the player felt from first playing the game is starting to go out.

I was one of the many that lost interest in the first month. I played day one, did the grind and felt that the world, not the game, was dead. There wasn't much in it, and as such it became boring, so I stopped playing. I feel like this same thing is happening to some people now. The mystery is gone for them. They've been there and done that. But the game itself is still great, and is being added to regularly.

It's my belief that the game is living and well, but the rewards are lacking and some are losing interest. Loss of interest leads to "the game is dying" in their mind, because, well, it's hard for us as humans to accept that the issue may be "me".

Games dying for sure, RARE just doesnt know it yet! I played a straight 12 months, until the terrible anniversary update. Since then, its the same ol same ol shock therapy to try and revitalize it back to life. New voyages and adventures with lots of bugs followed by nerfs. No new limited time items (thats why Duke hangs out in the tavern being drunk), nothing to buy with dabloons (the game IS a cosmetic based game right?), wheres the pets or fun micro transactions (4 months later and still no?). Still the same blah blah blah weekly dev update from Joel.........dead, dying, grindy- boring game! Peace and RIP

@ghosthound81 said in Rare you're killing your own game:

Still the same blah blah blah weekly dev update from Joel...

Joel... JOEL!!! AH AHAHAHAHAHA!!!

For some reason that made my day. Thanks

@contentzilla said in Rare you're killing your own game:

@benno-vvolf said in Rare you're killing your own game:

Okay, so I realize that the title of this thread can be a little dramatic but just hear me out on this. I have a lot of points to get through and I'll try to keep them as punctual and to the point as possible.
Firstly, the biggest issue, content. Sea of Thieves was a game with very little content upon release driving many new players to the genre away. That started to change when you brought more content with the first update "The Hungering Deep". It was only onwards and upwards from there with the additions of Skeleton Ships, Increased Fort Spawns, The Devils Roar, and Improved Megaladon/Kraken encounters. However, this is when things took a turn for the worst with one exception. I'll bring up the one positive first, being the Mercenary Voyages, not all of them however. The Mercenary Voyages were only partly good as you had some that had specific routes, meaning that players would have to encounter others along their path. Like what you had in the early days for summoning the Megaladon in The Hungering Deep and hunting the Skeleton Ship in Cursed Crews. Its wise in a big open world game to 'sometimes' bring in quests that force people to go up against others in order to earn a great reward. BUT, continuing on from this notice the use of the word 'sometimes' previously'. I say this as it can get boring if the routes for quests are always exactly the same which is what you got right in your most recent Tall Tales, kind of. The Second main point I'm trying to get at with all this is that all your previous content updates have been LT (Limited Time), so anything you earn or buy from Dukes Shop such as the Wailing Barnacle Set, or the Forsaken Ashes ship sets become legendary in a sort of way. All this 'watch a stream for some basic hull, sails, figurehead nonsense is just that, nonsense. Introduce them into the game, give people a reason to actually play and for the love of god, give your game a shops for kids to spend real money so that you are actually earning money. Might provide bit more incentive for you to stop dooming your own game. I'm bored of typing now but even just those few points should give you a bit of clarity I hope.
Cap'n BENNO VVOLF
Signing off.

I agree that Rare has been killing their game and can agree with some of your points. However, for me I think the reasons are;

1. They favor casuals vs legends
2. They do NOT embrace streamers
3. They NERFED ALMOST ALL OF THE COMMENDATIONS 6 MONTHS AFTER LAUNCH EVEN THO SOME PLAYERS (LIKE ME) HAD ALREADY GRINDED THEM OUT AND TURNED THIS GAME INTO A PARTICIPATION TROPHY REWARD SYSTEM.
4. Barrels 2.0 is terrible comparted to Barrels 1.0, why didn't they simply add a option to hold down a button to get into the barrels menu is beyond me.
5. Curse Cannon Balls added unbalancing and seems to be against their vision of not having any advantages tied to leveling and instead makes it a RNG thing. Hey if you guys wanted my success to depend on RNG why not add magic potions and weapons that you RANDOMLY can get. That makes it fair cuz it's random, right?
6. Never fixing bugs that have been present since launch, so for over a year now we've had to deal with long load times in to the game, teleporting to our ship or from the ferry. Then there's the cannon glitch that shoot u straight up into the air or behind your ship, you know like not where u are aiming. The lag and rubberbanding, not as bad but still there. Getting stuck on terrain and not being teleported back to your ship is a instant rage quit situation and for the life of me I can't see why they programmed a game where a player can get stuck. Invisible players. Players teleporting to enemy ships. Quests not being able to be completed due to glitches or showing complete. I'm sure I could go on but u get the idea. Glitches and bugs need to be fixed.
7. FORCED CROSS PLAY BETWEEN CONSOLE AND XBOX PLAYERS. Can we say, "UNBALANCED". Give us an opt out already!
8. Arena's focus is on digging up and delivering you billionth chest instead of focusing on PvP. If we wanted to dig up more chests we'd go back to Adventure mode.
9. I'm sure I could add more but u all get the idea.

With all that being said I think we appreciate Rare's vision, effort and all the darn hard work they've put into this gem of a game. I just feel like they were so much closer to perfection when the game launched and since have moved little by little away from what seemed to be a perfect vision.

I'm a hardcore SOT player, and i dont agree with any of your points.

1. No they dont, there had really good updates to the game that improved stuff for hardcore gamers, but somethings where unbalanced so they nerfed those.

2. They do not embrace streamers? Twitch rivals is next week. Not alone that, for example: if you stand still you get kicked after 5 min, but if you lay down it is an hour. That is streamer embrace, so streamers as Summit and Pace can hide and sneek.

3. Those commendations needed to get nerfed, they were stupidly insane, for example the "get and sell a total of 1000 banana barrels".

4. Barrels 2.0 is 100 times better then the old system. More resources then the old system, just press f multiple times to quickly grap items, or R, just to get one per click.

5. How are they unbalanced? We never sunk to CC's. Even today we had a enemy ship shoot like 6/7 CC's after each other, and we still easily won. Just play smart.

6. Yes, there are some bugs since launch, but did you report it? And i dont mean on the forums like everbody does, but on their support site. If you do they will look at it and hopefully solve the issues, i reported multiple small/big issues and all got fixed.

7. Opt-out is coming, it's gonna take some more time to. And before you say, its taking them way to long, well splitting matchmaking etc is tuff as hell code speaking. And I know it i'm a developer myself.

8. They are looking into this, and working on it. It's gonna be better in the future.

I'm sure every point you could name i wont agree with it :P. Complaining is easy, but the amount of work it takes in game development is just alot.

@bugaboo-bill said in Rare you're killing your own game:

@captcoza

People complaining mostly just didnt get the developers vision right and therefore constantly want to change the game in more or less drastically ways. And it is from PvE only to more PvP to more achievements grind, less achievements grind and whatnot.

I have tested and played plenty of games, this one is one of the few i played a good amount of hours maybe 1000, maybe less or even more idk.
But what i know is that i barely played games for a year or over 500 hours.
TBH the most games i buyed were played 30-100 hours and 100 is like i like this game a lot and played very much.
Only few games i have played 500 hours and more.

The main reason is i only play if it is fun!
But completionists for example play to complete and fun is sconded. They also play if the grind is a chore, because the feeling of accomplishment is what they have fun with and play for.
I stopped playing Arena and fisching for example.
Fishing is maybe sometimes a fun relaxing thing to do, but i do it very rare. I wont say i will never do it again, but i do not focus on it and i can refuse to level HC up.
It levels anyway because other crewmembers fish and deliver.
And i usually deliver stuff i found in wrecks or on other Ships food barrels :-P
Arena is until they do not change some things there not fun because its to often just frustrating when you are solo or your crew does not work together. I barely have a full crew wanting to do Arena. Here is why: No challenge. If you are a good crew you barely meet another good crew and you just steamroll the random crews etc...
I give it a try with all ships in the Arena maybe or when they make a Brig Arena. But nevertheless i dont like it that much, is rushed gameplay only.

This said, i have tons of fun playing the Adventure mode.

I agree on this, SoT has a lot of different tastes, like the fishing, some people like it, some not.

And the arena is getting improved, they said it multiple times, also they are into looking a better matchmake system so you get more players against you with the same skill level, so it's gonna be awesome in the future :D (And i still think the point system should be reworked, it should be about the pvp, not about the chests)

What killed this game is they couldn't decide if they wanted a team-based world pvp game or a co-op pve game. It hamstrung their decisions and designs throughout the entire life of the game.

@benno-vvolf said in Rare you're killing your own game:

Okay, so I realize that the title of this thread can be a little dramatic but just hear me out on this. I have a lot of points to get through and I'll try to keep them as punctual and to the point as possible.
Firstly, the biggest issue, content. Sea of Thieves was a game with very little content upon release driving many new players to the genre away. That started to change when you brought more content with the first update "The Hungering Deep". It was only onwards and upwards from there with the additions of Skeleton Ships, Increased Fort Spawns, The Devils Roar, and Improved Megaladon/Kraken encounters. However, this is when things took a turn for the worst with one exception. I'll bring up the one positive first, being the Mercenary Voyages, not all of them however. The Mercenary Voyages were only partly good as you had some that had specific routes, meaning that players would have to encounter others along their path. Like what you had in the early days for summoning the Megaladon in The Hungering Deep and hunting the Skeleton Ship in Cursed Crews. Its wise in a big open world game to 'sometimes' bring in quests that force people to go up against others in order to earn a great reward. BUT, continuing on from this notice the use of the word 'sometimes' previously'. I say this as it can get boring if the routes for quests are always exactly the same which is what you got right in your most recent Tall Tales, kind of. The Second main point I'm trying to get at with all this is that all your previous content updates have been LT (Limited Time), so anything you earn or buy from Dukes Shop such as the Wailing Barnacle Set, or the Forsaken Ashes ship sets become legendary in a sort of way. All this 'watch a stream for some basic hull, sails, figurehead nonsense is just that, nonsense. Introduce them into the game, give people a reason to actually play and for the love of god, give your game a shops for kids to spend real money so that you are actually earning money. Might provide bit more incentive for you to stop dooming your own game. I'm bored of typing now but even just those few points should give you a bit of clarity I hope.
Cap'n BENNO VVOLF
Signing off.

want to complain go find another game figer out what that means