Rare and their bad spelling

  • Dear Rare Employees,

    I've noticed that you have had a bad habit of mispelling words in your game. Specifically, there are 2 typos in the loading screens (outmanuever and practice are both written out wrong), among numerous others (I've seen at least 2 others - 1 in a commendation description, and the other with a vanity item's name). With a quality title like SoT, I'm disappointed that you, as the professionals, are letting such poor spelling practices go wholly unnoticed by EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE AT RARE.

    Please fix this issue as soon as possible - it is sloppy and lazy game design to not even spellcheck and/or proofread and not to mention that you're going to singlehandedly cause many children that play your wonderful game to fail at spelling bees.

    Sincerely,
    Galactic Geek
    Actual School Teacher

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  • @galactic-geek Yeah, doesn't bother me much, but i'll add what i've seen. On the initial loading screen, one of the slides states something to the affect of the The shops are keeping the reduced prices by way of thank you". Absolutely incorrect, backwards to be exact. What the sentence should read is, "The shops are saying thank you, by way of keeping the reduced pricing". So, again, i'm bored so I thought I'd add, this in no way shape or form upsets me or causes me to care even a little. My spelling and grammar are as bad as it gets.

  • @galactic-geek Ahoy matey!

    With Rare being a British company they usually end up using the British spelling for these kinds of things... so outmanoeuvre would be the right spelling for them.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/outmanoeuvre

  • @musicmee beat me to it. They spell things funny across the pond. They probably say the same about us yanks, but the point is...they're not wrong. They're just British. :D

  • @genuine-heather Hahaha we spell things a bit weirdly here... but hey, we invented the language :P

  • @galactic-geek an ACTUAL school teacher should know that there is a difference between ‘Murica english and British english....

  • If you do see things that are genuinely misspelled, submit a bug report. That's how studios generally handle spelling mistakes. I can imagine internal staff don't spend much time reading things like loading menus, I know I haven't since maybe the Hungering Deep, so it can be an easy thing to miss.

  • I figured they might be using old English, @Musicmee, but I still think that they should translate their in-game text to that of their core audience - which use American English. Keep 'ye ol' Englis in 'ye own UK if ye want, but o'er the pond, we speak...

    'Merica! 😅

    Seriously though - they'll translate other languages but not English to English? 🤔

  • @galactic-geek Hahahaha :P

    I quite like the quirks and twangs it all has... being a developer myself I have to chuck unnecessary Us in most words I type, so totally get the weirdness sometimes.

    English to English.... lol.

  • @galactic-geek said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    I figured they might be using old English, @Musicmee, but I still think that they should translate their in-game text to that of their core audience - which use American English. Keep 'ye ol' Englis in 'ye own UK if ye want, but o'er the pond, we speak...

    'Merica! 😅

    Seriously though - they'll translate other languages but not English to English? 🤔

    As a ‘Murican, I would hate for them to lose the British flavour.

    It’s not a different language, it’s a different dialect. It makes sense to translate to different languages, not from English to English.

    DayZ recently did something similar with their Xbox trailer by giving the characters American accents (a southern drawl, even) for a game set in a fictional Eastern European country - with street names in Czech.

    It’s just weird.

    ‘Muricans should really learn to appreciate other cultures rather than demand conformity to American norms.

  • @galactic-geek said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    Dear Rare Employees,

    I've noticed that you have had a bad habit of mispelling words in your game. Specifically, there are 2 typos in the loading screens (outmanuever and practice are both written out wrong), among numerous others (I've seen at least 2 others - 1 in a commendation description, and the other with a vanity item's name). With a quality title like SoT, I'm disappointed that you, as the professionals, are letting such poor spelling practices go wholly unnoticed by EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE AT RARE.

    Please fix this issue as soon as possible - it is sloppy and lazy game design to not even spellcheck and/or proofread and not to mention that you're going to singlehandedly cause many children that play your wonderful game to fail at spelling bees.

    Sincerely,
    Galactic Geek
    Actual School Teacher

    You are a school teacher? That is awesome, and I thank you for doing what you do, even though I did horribly in school... and I do mean horribly. haha. I was gifted with teachers that understood my situation and let me do things on my own, or later in life do my work on my own time and spend class-time maintaining computer labs. :)

    However, teaching can be a rough calling and I commend you for doing it. :)

  • @bran-the-ent It's 1 thing to represent a cultural/historical linguistic perspective, but it's quite another to confuse the audience that you're directly addressing. In other words, I think it's fine in-game with the world and characters, where it adds flavor, but not with loading screen tips and menus that directly "speak" to the player, which again, is by and large American English.

    Speaking of which, whatever happened to the loading screens that rhymed? I miss those... Why did Rare not continue that?

  • @musicmee said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    @genuine-heather Hahaha we spell things a bit weirdly here... but hey, we invented the language :P

    Clearly you invented it wrong.

  • @kzoo-kid Hehehehe :P Luckily we have people over the pond fixing it right now... lol.

  • @musicmee said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    @kzoo-kid Hehehehe :P Luckily we have people over the pond fixing it right now... lol.

    L**o don't worry we "gotchu"

  • @galactic-geek The fact that a teacher would be confused by British spelling is more a sign of the state of education in this country than any sort of misguidance on the part of a British company.

    I learned about British spelling by reading books in English class. People still read English Literature, yes? It's still taught in schools? Are there no workhouses?

  • @bran-the-ent Alas poor Yorick... oh wait, not that ye olde English...

  • @musicmee Nope, that's modern English.

    Another sore point for me. The present movement to translate Shakespeare into modern English. UGH!! Don't get me started.

  • would you rather them spend time on spelling or in game content?

  • @galactic-geek They’re using perfectly proper English. Are you saying Americans are so dumb we can’t understand a few alternate spellings? Or is this simply another case of demanding the rest of the world conform to our ways of doing things for our comfort and convenience? People around the world play Sea of Thieves. Many of them live in the U.K. Why should Rare ignore those customers and change their dialect for the comfort of those in the U.S.?

    This manner of oblivious arrogance is why the rest of the world thinks we’re nuts.

  • @bran-the-ent You misunderstand me, and further insult my ability as a teacher - but I won't hold that against you. As I already said, I suspected that it was old English, but that's besides the point. My point is that Rare should address their core audience in the most receptive way possible, and they aren't doing that in this particular case... It's not wrong to use old English, but it is wrong to place communicative barriers in front of those with whom you're communicating to.

  • @galactic-geek It's not old English. It's just English... wow. It's the British dialect of English.

    ... What is he of basest function
    That says his bravery is not of my cost,
    Thinking that I mean him, but therein suits
    His folly to the mettle of my speech?
    There then; how then? what then? Let me see wherein
    My tongue hath wrong'd him: if it do him right,
    Then he hath wrong'd himself; if he be free,
    Why then my taxing like a wild-goose flies,
    Unclaim'd of any man.

  • @bran-the-ent I claimed to be a teacher; never an English teacher. 😋

    ...and for the record, I personally call it old English because it came first and is still, in fact, older than American English - not because I'm trying to be technically correct in this instance.

  • @galactic-geek Oookay - but you seemed to make it look like your teacher status should lend you some authority in this matter.

    And, I'm not an English teacher, either. In fact, I'm not a teacher at all - hence... my point.

    ...and for the record I personally call it old English because it came first and is still, in fact, older than American English - not because I'm trying to be technically correct.

    Would you like a bigger shovel?

  • @callmebackdraft said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    @galactic-geek an ACTUAL school teacher should know that there is a difference between ‘Murica english and British english....

    *Murican.

    Comparing America to British is like comparing Africa to Chinese.

    Edit - think I read wrong. Carry on 😂

  • @scraping-static It has been said of Britain and America that they are "two countries separated by a common language."

  • @genuine-heather I may be dumb, but I talk good.

  • @bran-the-ent said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    @scraping-static It has been said of Britain and America that they are "two countries separated by a common language."

    No I misread his response I think. At first it looked like he was comparing America to British rather than to Britain. Which makes no sense. But either he edited it that fast or I’m losing my memory and just completely read what he wrote wrong.

    Doesn’t matter! I was just being a wise guy, I’m not trying to contribute to the statistic of people who get overly technical on a forum.

  • I honestly don’t think it matters, since Rare is a company from across the pond, they probably have a right to use that spelling.

  • I really wish you guys didn't dump our tea, we could've got past this learning error when we taught the americans..

    Haha only kidding, though I get what you're saying for the non-american audience but the vast main feedback comes from the British team and the devs which are all British themselves so it's hard to have an american outlook with a sole British vocabulary.

  • @galactic-geek This honestly is correct..as @Musicmee said..and even if it was not...it would be at the bottom of their list right now..not game breaking at all.

  • @bran-the-ent said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    @galactic-geek The fact that a teacher would be confused by British spelling is more a sign of the state of education in this country than any sort of misguidance on the part of a British company.

    I learned about British spelling by reading books in English class. People still read English Literature, yes? It's still taught in schools? Are there no workhouses?

    So you are familiar with African or Mandarin spellings of those words? Albeit far more similar, there is no reason he should be familiar with British English spellings of those words...

  • @aod-fluid Clearly didn't read what you quoted. There is every reason for Americans to be familiar with British spellings of words - or at familiar enough not to condemn them as spelling mistakes.

  • @bran-the-ent said in Rare and their bad spelling:

    @aod-fluid Clearly didn't read what you quoted. There is every reason for Americans to be familiar with British spellings of words - or at familiar enough not to condemn them as spelling mistakes.

    You are taking things a little too literal. The state of education is defined a lot less by this than it is by the other spelling mistakes all over forums and social media sites all over the Internet. There are far worse things out there than someone not being familiar with another form of their language.

  • Dear Rare Employees,
    I've noticed that you have had a bad habit of mispelling words in your game.

    Muphry's Law strikes again!

    The word is misspelling – with two Ss – in both British and American English.

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