Sea Of Thieves cross platform related

@sort-out-xplay said in Sea Of Thieves cross platform related:

I'm glad to see that this topic is still being widely discussed.
I'm sad to see that the same old faces are coming to derail the threads & lie to preserve their advantages & bait & troll to try & get the threads closed.
Still Rare does nothing about these members & does even less about the issue of unfair crossplay!!

No one is trying to derail anything, you're just claiming that because logic and facts are not helping your point of view.

I don't discount that the PC has way better looking graphics, but come on man, the PC graphics card for those High end PC's that can have those graphics costs more than an X-box enhanced..

Let that sink in for a moment,, the graphics card is more expensive than the entire X-box, and you have not even purchased all the other internal components yet..

Additionally the X-box vs the X-box Enhanced is a massive difference in graphics as well, the draw distance alone on the Enhanced is monumentally better. If rare was really thinking they would give the Enhanced a 60 FPS 1080P mode you could select over the 4K 30 FPS mode.. That would give you essentially the same graphical resolution that PC users have; most of them game at 1080P from what I read because 4K even on the best machines does not offer very good frame rates, and 4K gaming is apparently a massive waste of money..

Top this off with the only REAL advantage the PC guys have being double sound channels for chat; something WE can actually also take advantage of by using our cell phone and a 3rd party app to communicate while our X-box mic is "OFF" allowing us to hear all, and speak with out being discovered.

The mythical PC advantage is more mythical than it is real.. I have seen a good PC first hand playing Sea of Thieves, and it looks beautiful, but the reality is that the player makes the game, not the machine the player is on.

@d3adst1ck
Don't want pc trolls harassing my main account thank you, went down that road before!
I'm discussing the issue m8, what are you bringing to the table?

@swimplatypus7
What the hell has cost of a gfx card got to do with the various issues we are bringing up?
I don't care if the pc users want to spend silly money on a rig, that's up to them.
I bought a console to be on a fair a level playing field with other console players - let that sink in for a moment!

PC players have a host of advantages m8, these have been listed here & in the millions of threads on the internet regarding the same thing.
If you don't think there is an issue why do you find it necessary to get involved in the discussion?

@sort-out-xplay said in Sea Of Thieves cross platform related:

@swimplatypus7
What the hell has cost of a gfx card got to do with the various issues we are bringing up?
I don't care if the pc users want to spend silly money on a rig, that's up to them.
I bought a console to be on a fair a level playing field with other console players - let that sink in for a moment!

PC players have a host of advantages m8, these have been listed here & in the millions of threads on the internet regarding the same thing.
If you don't think there is an issue why do you find it necessary to get involved in the discussion?

I make that point because you fully do not understand the actual advantage that PC has and X-box enhanced in theory can mirror.

Big deal you purchased and X-box like the eleventy billion other players like you and I. Problem with this is; not all X-box are even remotely equal, if you don't understand why I hope that you would do some research to understand why this is and why there is no such thing as an even playing field even if we had such a mythical X-box only server.

Then take into consideration that the X-box Elite controller I have is a massive advantage over the standard controller because I have fast access to everything I need while players on the standard controller are going to be using menu support for some of their tools even if they re-map for a far better experience.

Most of the so called "PC Advantage" does not apply in Sea of Thieves because the pace and speed of the game is too slow for those advantages to actually work. This is something you would know if you ever had competed in REAL competitive gaming; and I assure you this game is not even close.

@swimplatypus7
I have an Xbox OG, A One X & a PC.
I can tell the difference & see the advantages & have been able to for a long while.
What advantage does the elite controller give? The 2 paddles cant be mapped as extra buttons. It's not like a keyboard or gaming mouse where you can hotkey nearly everything!

By it's nature a game is competitive!
Why this keeps getting said is just stupid. If i invest 2 hours questing & have that wiped out in 2mins by a pc player then those advantages do matter! That's why these threads won't ever stop.
The load times between xbox's is minimal compared to the gulf in difference with a half decent pc.

My mouse has 8 buttons i can remap. I can remap all my keyboard keys. I have a much better refresh rate on my pc, the game looks prettier & runs smoother.
But i choose to play on my one x with a controller on a tv, if i want to continue doing that i shouldn't have to be disadvantaged doing so.

@sort-out-xplay said in Sea Of Thieves cross platform related:

@swimplatypus7
I have an Xbox OG, A One X & a PC.
I can tell the difference & see the advantages & have been able to for a long while.
What advantage does the elite controller give? The 2 paddles cant be mapped as extra buttons. It's not like a keyboard or gaming mouse where you can hotkey nearly everything!

By it's nature a game is competitive!
Why this keeps getting said is just stupid. If i invest 2 hours questing & have that wiped out in 2mins by a pc player then those advantages do matter! That's why these threads won't ever stop.
The load times between xbox's is minimal compared to the gulf in difference with a half decent pc.

My mouse has 8 buttons i can remap. I can remap all my keyboard keys. I have a much better refresh rate on my pc, the game looks prettier & runs smoother.
But i choose to play on my one x with a controller on a tv, if i want to continue doing that i shouldn't have to be disadvantaged doing so.

You're intentionally deceptive in that. Yes you can indeed map those bottom paddles, thing is you map them as D-pad buttons so that your access to tools changes, etc never need be interrupted by movement. That is a massive advantage that you clearly don't appear to accept.

Sure it would be nice if the button mapping was improved but at least I don't need to use the menu to select the most important tools on the fly.

It's my opinion that either you're intentionally deceptive or unwilling to innovate to compete.

@d3adst1ck
Think what you like m8 :)
I am adding to a debate that has been going on for ages & won't just miraculously go away!
You are the one coming into the discussion with no intent to add anything, just solely to cause unrest & bait an argument.

@swimplatypus7
Not being deceptive at all. I'm being blunt & honest.
I don't own an elite controller, but was aware that the paddles could only be mapped as other buttons, not extra buttons.
So you can map bananas or planks to a paddle instead of the dpad. It's not quite the same as being able to hit someone with a sword, jump over them, change weapon in mid air & shoot them in the back of the head before the poor controller user has even managed to turn around is it??
You are just unwilling to accept there is an issue & that's fine, but don't try & say there is no advantage or that it they don't matter because of the pace of the game or because it isn't competitive, as that is just a crock of....

@sort-out-xplay said in Sea Of Thieves cross platform related:

@swimplatypus7
Not being deceptive at all. I'm being blunt & honest.
I don't own an elite controller, but was aware that the paddles could only be mapped as other buttons, not extra buttons.
So you can map bananas or planks to a paddle instead of the dpad. It's not quite the same as being able to hit someone with a sword, jump over them, change weapon in mid air & shoot them in the back of the head before the poor controller user has even managed to turn around is it??
You are just unwilling to accept there is an issue & that's fine, but don't try & say there is no advantage or that it they don't matter because of the pace of the game or because it isn't competitive, as that is just a crock of....

You don't know what a massive advantage that is because you don't play with it. The difference in your ability to respond to a situation is massive.

Additionally the Elite controller unlike the standard controller allows to to massively increase the sensitivity of the controller input to be "hair trigger" meaning your response time is only matched by the most expensive keyboard and mouse; not overcome by it. It's possible that the Elite controller is actually better when set up correctly.

There is a lot you can do with the elite controller, and its well worth the $150 USD for the advantage that it provides. Also as time goes on the capability will only increase, the firmware will get updated and the number of buttons we can bind will expand by 4; this is only a matter of time, not "IF".

The massive advantage to those back 4 button locations is that we can stay on the stick while swaping weapons, access to banana, or whatever your hearts desire without any need to take our thumbs off the control; this is where the Elite controller absolutely dominates the standard controller.

As for the supposed disparity between a mouse and keyboard and the Elite controller, sorry I have played on both my buddies top end PC and the Elite, and the controller is seriously very good. Mouse and Keyboard is nice, but it's not the advantage that players claim.

This old argument does hold true for REAL competitive FPS combat games, but this Sea of Thieves is not even remotely in that arena. Even when Rare finally ships arena play, it will NEVER be a real combat FPS at any point ever, nor should any one be so foolish as to think it can be an "E-sport" of any kind..

Furthermore you really don't want Sea of Thieves to become an E-sport of any kind; that's how you destroy a video game and transform it from fun to poison.

@d3adst1ck
Not 'calling out' anyone, i was merely stating a fact that the same people keep doing the same things on these types of threads & pointing out that Rare has done nothing about them & have done even less about facing up to the crossplay issue. Therefore my post also contained some feedback, so regardless of what you want to think, i was adding to the discussion.
I have bit my lip up until now, but enough is enough! This topic needs to be put to rest & the only way that is going to happen is if Rare step up & say something. Instead we get silence from them & more users end up getting banned because of these situations.
Users are allowed to have multiple accounts m8, it's not against the rules. I told you i'd rather not have any recourse taken by said 'trolls' on my main account. I don't intend to break any rules as this could jeopardise my main account, & that is something i don't want to happen.

We all know & can see you are against any form of crossplay option, but your attitude towards those that still want to discuss the topic is just plain rude.
If you have nothing else to say on the matter why do you still find it necessary to comment?

@knifelife
Thank you for sticking up for me m8 ;)
It just really grinds my gears when any form of crossplay discussion is shutdown because of stupid arguments all the time.
I don't want any hassle on my main account, so made an alternate one for sensitive topics, not to flout or break any rules as deadstick is implying.

@swimplatypus7
I'm not being funny m8, but there is enough research done on KB+M vs Controller with results widely available.
All results show that a controller cannot compete with a KB+M. I'm sorry m8, they just cant!
That is why every other crossplay game separates pc from console or KB+M from controller.
It is common knowledge.
Fair enough the elite controller may offer a small advantage over a standard controller, but KB+M beats them all by a huge margin! (even your expensive controller ;) )

@d3adst1ck said in Sea Of Thieves cross platform related:

@sort-out-xplay said in Sea Of Thieves cross platform related:

If you have nothing else to say on the matter why do you still find it necessary to comment?

I commented because I found it hypocritical for an alt account to be calling other people baiting trolls.

The crossplay discussion is over for me, I don't care anymore. Rare will do what they figure needs to be done.

So because you assume that everyone with an alt account is a ban dodger or a troll, & you find the need to disrupt any discussion they are in, call them out & bait them into an argument.
That makes perfect sense & is perfectly rational isn't it?
@Deckhands @Quartermasters - I don't think it's fair that @D3ADST1CK is allowed to throw those types of accusations at me for no reason. Surely that's against the pirate code?

@d3adst1ck
So now its because of my GT or my choice of topic to post on?
Still makes no difference m8, what you did is exactly what you are trying to accuse me of.

@d3adst1ck
You called me out with your accusations & then tried baiting me into an argument with the way you spoke about me to @KnifeLife. Very hypocritical.
Please try to keep up now