This isn't really funny anymore

@benjawenja said in This isn't really funny anymore:

I don't exactly get what you're angry about. Is it the many versions of the almost exact same sword that for which you must work and spend gold on? Or is it something else?

Well, A dye system would be better than having the same item that is slightly re-coloured in the shops to sell for full price.

Shops shouldn't include a bunch of the same items that are slightly colored.

Buy the item you want then you can dye it in the dye shop.

@pk-r0ckin It seems that people are a little bit miffed and not because of the options.

People are upset that the new cosmetics added don't display a lot of variation. Most cases the gear look almost identical with very minor coloration changes. So while yes there are more options, some think that the added options are not exactly meaningful. They give the air of 'low effort' to satisfy those clamoring for new material. Hence the discontent.

In general, a way to address this would be to increase the depth of customization. You buy a stock piece with default coloration. Then you pay a bit extra to alter the colors as you see fit. More colors altered means you pay more sort of thing. Yes you have to implement a whole new system, but you save model development time by eliminating the need to work on variations that differ only by colors. You can instead focus that effort on developing new object models and let the players color their cosmetics as they see fit.

To echo my sentiment on Reddit:

I, for one, find it hilarious.

Whoever is charge over at RARE is making silly decisions. I'm trying to be hopeful about the May release event - but everything is pointing to panic mode content creation.

You can tell by the look on their faces they're putting man hours in - I just don't know if it's under the right management.

@stadunator said in This isn't really funny anymore:

@theunknownd I agree, Rare and their complete lack of content for this game is ridiculous.

I'm just surprised it's taken someone this long to post a thread on this.

Sure, they could have added an achievement or some sort of in game bonus for owning all items in a particular line i.e. all the basic Sea Dog stuff. Did they? Nope they just added the same exact item with a slightly different color or embellishment.

SoT is the absolute best example of lazy development that I've ever seen.

I agree, I would love it that you get a special item after buying all of the items from the set.

@stadunator I don't see them as lazy - but I do feel that whoever is in charge hasn't been doing their job. If that ex artist is real - it sounds like there has been a lot of bad management of the game design - and now it's starting to show more and more. I had initially thought that it was rushed out the door - and once they launched they would regroup and push work in progress content out the door quickly.

Now... it appears to me that there isn't someone in charge that was able to clearly bring the vision of the game to reality.

Unless something changes behind the scenes - expect more silly decisions on the horizon. Hey look I made a sailor joke!)

@mrbrocksego Strictly speaking, any new system added would take development time. And I would rather they implement such a system now when they have only a few models to work with when compared with down the road.

As it stands right now, there are only really a handful of actual models to work with. All that has been done thus far is take an existing model and apply different coloration to it. A dye system would simply put the coloration into the players hands. Then all that has to be done is building the models really and importing them into the dye system and away you go.

If there is significant rework to be done, as I said above it would be better to do it sooner rather than later.

@personalc0ffee Eh, I am patient when it comes to game development really. I wasn't complaining about the lack of content or rushed cosmetics. I was simply explaining to someone why this opinion is held by some. I am not one of the ones demanding content yesterday.

Personally, I would rather the new content and systems be implemented properly rather than rush jobs just to placate a few. The problem though is that Rare is in the "Damned if you do damned if you don't" scenario. They could delay content to make sure it is put in right and get flamed for it, or they rush it and get flamed for what seems to be "low effort" content.

Either way there will be unhappy people. For the record, I am not one of those.

@crusader-zorro said in This isn't really funny anymore:

@pk-r0ckin said in This isn't really funny anymore:

Id prefer the green to the gold eyes of yhe lion. Im sure someone has yhe same opinion. Whata wrong with options?

Someone buy this man a "T" Key

This version is a little more consistent:

Id prefer yhe green yo yhe gold eyea of yhe lion. Im aure aomeone haa yhe aame opinion. Whaya wrong wiyh opyiona?

@ghostpaw said in This isn't really funny anymore:

It cannot be easy to be an artist on the development team and see what is going on.

This could explain the terrible color combinations. Insidious rebellion.

@ghostpaw said in This isn't really funny anymore:

Like the disgruntled Disney artists sneaking inappropriate images into the cartoons they work on. Hopefully they find a way to gruntle (or regruntle) the Rare artists.

Really, how else do you explain this? It's just a straight triadic color scheme, but it's seriously like the WORST one for a ship that's supposed to be cool.

That's what I'm talking about.
This is pretty good logic for a game that is a cosmetic based progression - except whoever was in charge didn't do anything to represent that progression visually in game. The whole visual representation of progress was an afterthought to get the release out the door.

These are NOT huge changes you're suggesting - It's logical visual based content that would have made players feel like progress was being made in the game.

Instead - same chests no matter what level you get to.
Same ship skins no matter what level you are (until you can purchase the super high level skins) - but there is nothing in between - there is no visual representation of your slow - very slow progress until you're at the end.

I think this is a wonderful suggestion - and it would take about a week to make the change. That's what sad.

They could redo the shops with level based skins at every level or every 10 levels etc. Make some look wood - silver gold - just as you suggest and new players would feel like they're working towards something.

Instead they level up the compass - watch - spyglass every 10 level and nobody even can see them - but the ships are all turning into clones...

Anyway - It won't happen though - RARE is in panic mode to release the events and something as simple as this is too large of a feat to do.
Wouldn't help us higher level players - but would make a huge perception difference to new players.

RARE is a galleon not a sloop. Can't make good turns. :)

@ghostpaw said in This isn't really funny anymore:

It cannot be easy to be an artist on the development team and see what is going on. For example, more could be done than simply changing the base and eye color of a masthead. Players want to show off their progress. If the difference is that subtle then it isn't going to have much of an impact. Maybe the differences look more distinctive on an isolated model within a design program, but once the asset is in context the differences are lost. At a glance we should be to tell what level an item is. A wooden lion's head would be the entry level, a silver one would be the next level, then the top tier would be gold. If it doesn't pass the glance test then it isn't going feel meaningful. This goes for weapons, clothing, other ship cosmetics, and items/tools.