Alliance servers

I agree with this, unfortunately there are a lot of players on the forums that are pro alliance, PvE and all that. but I agree with you wholeheartedly. alliance servers have done nothing but harm the game since they were made possible, and make grinding and achievements useless when you have some alliance dude who hardly knows how to play the game, cant fight. and barely knows how to sail a ship himself, have all the same commendations and have fed off everyone else giving him stuff. and that same guy will boast about all the stuff he has or has unlocked, when it was not him that actually did any of the work for those things. us hard working players are often annoyed by this, and even now. we refuse to be of that same likeness. alliance servers are so common in posts these days that its actually affecting how many people and players are playing the game how its supposed to be played, when the LFG posts online are like 40 percent alliance xbox only players. there is something seriously wrong. they are abusing the alliance system rare integrated to make sailing with other ships fun, and turning it into "xbox only grind for whoever we are grinding for at the time" and "get your stuff in a quarter of the time with no effort" people will comment saying its not abuse but it is.

there is NO system in the game for alliance servers, to do so. you need to hop until u get into the same server with someone u know, OR go round trying to convince and often even bully people out of the server specifically so you can have people join their ship and lock the server down, so there is no threat or even chance that something will go wrong.

furthermore, if ANYONE in your server or discords tried to do anything else other than what you want them to grind for you, they are banned from discords, removed and unfriended. or deliberately spawn camped by the rest of the server, and are treated very badly. then they are never allowed back in. this is abuse, abuse of the system and of the alliance system rare has given us

unfortunately some of these discords have grown to big, and now rare has their hands tied. they cannot ban alliance servers without angering a lot of these players abusing the system. which makes sense, but is sad. sad that it is allowed to happen. its killing this game. I only hope one day rare sees that exploitation and does something about it

@c-l-u-3-3

While I don't like the nature of Alliance-farming servers and believe it is against the spirit of the game, I don't think players should be banned over it. What Rare likes about them is the content creation aspect of things, but they already made it clear a long while back that they do not appreciate the PvE farming.

My concern about PvE/peaceful servers has always been about hurting the game experience by distributing players based on play style, thus decreasing the player variety we encounter. Alliance servers do not occur at a high enough frequency to have that impact (yet).

Something that recently rubbed me the wrong way though was that they had this Xbox Hall of Fame contest for Pirate Legends to earn Emissary value in Athena's Fortune and be given a chance at a spot in the Xbox Hall of Fame.

That is a situation where I believe Alliance servers created an unfair advantage for players using them. The player that topped the leaderboard, if I recall correctly, was one of the biggest alliance server hosts back when they first started in 2018 and still uses alliance servers.

The design of the mechanic never should have allowed for this to happen, and Rare needs to revisit how alliances are executed. Especially if there are going to be contests like this.

@eggyboffer97 Getting rid of alliances is a bad idea. Alliances can serve a purpose in the SoT ecology, but alliances are clearly broken as they stand. Anyone who denies that can't see the forest for the trees. Alliances are aversion of risk. Avoiding risk should not be rewarded with extra gold and reputation. It just shouldn't. Also, capping ships per alliance should also be implemented so that entire servers don't become gold farms. With the introduction of the leaderboards for emissaries there is even more of a valid point for not letting people farm without fear of repercussion. It completely negates the point of a leaderboard like that in the first place. Play the game how you want, but don't try and defend a practice like full server alliances as if they are some necessary and well-planned aspect of the game. Alliances were shoe-horned into the game like many of Rare's additions. That is clear to see.

lollll, RIGHT

@pvp-creed Your funny. People still have to work for their commendations :') they still have to do quests, They still have to play the game to get anything.

@eggyboffer97 and that comment was ignorant, how are people "workng" for their commendations when they have several other ships do it for them and give them the loot to sell because they have to? the simple answer is they dont. it is exploiting the alliance system and my comment stands.

@galactic-geek Sure, but they will not confer undue advantage that the current official system does. Earning more gold and reputation than your haul of treasure allows would not be possible with unofficial alliances. I don't care about alliance servers ultimately. The biggest issue is the fact that people get extra for the alliances when there is a leaderboard system in the game. It literally makes no sense.

@flying-poopla said in Alliance servers:

@galactic-geek Sure, but they will not confer undue advantage that the current official system does. Earning more gold and reputation than your haul of treasure allows would not be possible with unofficial alliances. I don't care about alliance servers ultimately. The biggest issue is the fact that people get extra for the alliances when there is a leaderboard system in the game. It literally makes no sense.

The Emissary leaderboards do NOT count alliance turn ins, only what is turned in by your own crew. This is a complete non-issue.

@c-l-u-3-3 said in Alliance servers:

These should be removed from the game and all players should be banned for exploiting. Thoughts?

I say leave them how they are. Me and my crew love finding them and sinking every ship within them 1 by 1.

@dlchief58 said in Alliance servers:

@flying-poopla said in Alliance servers:

@galactic-geek Sure, but they will not confer undue advantage that the current official system does. Earning more gold and reputation than your haul of treasure allows would not be possible with unofficial alliances. I don't care about alliance servers ultimately. The biggest issue is the fact that people get extra for the alliances when there is a leaderboard system in the game. It literally makes no sense.

The Emissary leaderboards do NOT count alliance turn ins, only what is turned in by your own crew. This is a complete non-issue.

No it isn't IMHO. People who use the emissary system on an alliance server do not run the risk of getting sunk as the people who use the emissary on real adventure servers - they have an unfair advantage.
People, if they're smart, on an alliance server probably even swap treasure for the emissary they're running.

@nabberwar I think it would be cool if part of an alliance was a loot share agreement out of 100%
More ships= smaller shares.