Season 13 is one big let down

This post is a 100% trolling.
A Tall Tale wouldn't do Flameheart's return justice, a world event does!
Furthermore, you get the obsidian bones from reaching only level 210 on HG, which is completely fair.
The second point is simply ludicrous considering the immense amount of Flameheart themed items that the season brings.
Finally the third point, you complain about wanting Flameheart themed cosmetics and yet you also complain if you get exactly those for doing the commendations of the new Flameheart world event?!

@nebelsoldat499 yes they added new cosmetics but guess what. the majority of the playerbase will never have them anyway. the only people satisfied with HG and this update are the sweaty skelly curses that have nothing else to do with their life. for the more casual players who aren't very good at pvp which IS the majority of players this game hasn't seen new content in over a year and they don't bother to play HG because 1: they dont have the time 2: they cant get XP because the matchmaking is trash and u only get a little xp when you win (which is basically never) 3: ITS BORING and REPETITIVE.

@mich-iel2538 said in Season 13 is one big let down:

Rare why have you become so lazy and easily satisfied? Has the greed over money taken away your passion?

The top dogs aren't sitting around and reading this type of stuff.

This sort of feedback just reaches people that don't make nearly as much as some seem to think they do, don't have nearly as much power as some think they do, and are far more vulnerable in the space than some think they are.

Not a whole lot different than yelling and talking down to staff at a place that serves people in some way.

It's not criticism to subject people to that, it's just mistreatment, while justifying it by acting like only some company or powerful people are seeing it.

@mich-iel2538 said in Season 13 is one big let down:

@wolfmanbush
You can use this "appeal to emotion" argument to silence any criticism towards the game.

It's as poor of a strategy as it is an unkind approach.

It's easy to dismiss people that are rude and talk down to others, very easy. So, even if you find it an appropriate way to criticize it doesn't help your cause.

That's something that gets missed a lot in the social areas of SoT, it's just poor strategy, counter-productive, easy to dismiss.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Except you have very little power in the scenario, they can just tune you out for your approach. Your power has far more impact when used in a way that inspires rather than tears down people and their efforts.

When trying to get people to truly listen to what you have to say and your views it will always be in your best interest to not call people lazy or do things like say that they don't care, etc.

You called it an appeal to emotion, I see it as approach things in a decent way that is considerate of others so that this experience can improve as a whole.

It's never weakness to be considerate of the situation others are in, it's more often than not a strength.

@olive-the-cook said in Season 13 is one big let down:

@nebelsoldat499 yes they added new cosmetics but guess what. the majority of the playerbase will never have them anyway. the only people satisfied with HG and this update are the sweaty skelly curses that have nothing else to do with their life. for the more casual players who aren't very good at pvp which IS the majority of players this game hasn't seen new content in over a year and they don't bother to play HG because 1: they dont have the time 2: they cant get XP because the matchmaking is trash and u only get a little xp when you win (which is basically never) 3: ITS BORING and REPETITIVE.

Hey can we stop accusing people who play differently than us of having no lives? Thats a really lazy attempt at copium, imho. My guild almost all enjoy hourglass, and just about every other part of the game. My guild also has a wide age range, a decent mix of genders (kinda), and are spread about NA. Many in my guild are also good at HG and have the curses. I have 403 in servants and like 240 in guardians. We have jobs, lives, families, and everything else that normal people have. Just because you can’t or won’t put in the effort to succeed in HG, as literally anyone could, does not make those who do sweaty no lives or whatever else you’re implying.

I see this on forums frequently, and to me it just sounds like individuals coping with their own failures. Guess what, not everyone finds HG to be boring and repetitive. I find tall tales to be boring and repetitive and for that reason I haven’t gotten the golden shores gold curse, I’m about half way there for a long time. Are those with the golden shore curse sweats with no lives? You certainly won’t see me making that copium claim.

P.S. love the burning blade event, and I look forward to working towards the commendations.

Everyone gets their opinion, but I gotta say....yes! it's just you.

The Burning Blade is just EPIC in design and function. The Dragon Cannons could have longer range though.
The new puzzles are pretty cool. All things get repetitive in this game over time.
The Plunder Pass is the best one yet. I happen to like red cosmetics, so the freebies and the Plunder Pass set all work together quite well.

I do agree though that a cinematic would be nice for FlameHeart.

ragebait play the game bucko

It's meh. I'm not liking the Plunder Pass cosmetics. It's a pvp focused update so not for me. Probably won't bother with the camps more unless there is a BB up so I can keep them from getting rituals by doing them first lol.

It's not that they're lazy, but nothing really excites me this update.

Bruh, you think this is bad wait for season 14...if its anything remotely close to what they alluded to previously then we got absolutely nothing to look forward to for a long while.

I think it has made player content the most interesting it has been in a very long time. I'm not into the wrecking inexperienced players stuff, especially the brig v sloop stuff. It helps inexperienced players become more competitive which makes for better content and more entertaining content rather than just watching people lose in unfun ways.

I like that the camping seems more fun and piratey take over rather than kind of an off-putting overkill type of situation

Multi ship battles are always my favorite, whether fighting or watching and this content has been better for that than a lot of the other content.

The unintended stuff is super unfortunate but I think it's more fun than usual.

I like the skelly camps quite a bit. They are just designed really well for casual play and adventure play.

As far as the content goes I don't have negative/critical feelings about it. I'm a solo but I think it's ok to have an event like the BB.

I think they succeeded with "fun" way more than they did with 12.

not sure what their original time table was for this. seems obvious they have been working on the BB for a long time but at least 1 of the years we waited was for their poorly implemented guild system which is super buggy still and so limiting with a very small player cap. and the fact guilds in games are meant to play together and you cant even sail as a guild unless you do the tedious "lets hit set sail at the same second and cross our fingers"

yea the shrines are tedious and in typical rare grindy fashion. i dont think they are a bad addition just more of the same weve already seen before. some tall tales involving flame heart would have been nice. but that could still come. this update is very heavily focused on pvp despite the trailers showing off nothing but the pve. yet basically you are forced to grind a pvp event that gives no hourglass reputation while hourglass is probably the literal worst thing they have added to the game, which is ironic because most of us praised hourglass when it came out even the pvp haters but then oh the curses and access to exclusive zones created fomo forcing us to grind a mode we hate. and even hitbotc who said the hourglass was the best sot update we have ever gotten... grew to hate hourglass in a matter of weeks.

note my issue with the pvp nature of this new event isnt the pvp itself but that it doesnt reward hourglass which is the major pvp thing in the game.

@ghostfire1981 said in Season 13 is one big let down:

Erm, have you tried out the new ship, and what it is capable of? We now have a really scary thing moving around the map, and we can capture it OR fight it. If you are even a little into PvP this is super exciting news, something that will properly activate the whole server. (If i understood correctly the ship will disable other events, so you have to end it to get a new one.)

And about the lore part... this is just the introduction, im sure we will get more missions (or tall tales) as the story continues.

And if you're not into PvP and the BB is on your server causing all other world events to be disabled -- the third choice is to dive to another server and try your luck again.

My true concerns about this new world event are the following:

• A solo or duo will have a very difficult time on their own sinking an evenly moderately good crewed Burning Blade. Get anywhere close to the ship and a barrage of canon balls mean your crew is spending a large amount of time just keeping the sloop afloat and in the battle. As a below average to average player, there is very little chance for boarding opportunities.
• The anchor should scale to the original crew size. Was it a sloop, then use the sloop anchor. Was it a galley, then it should have the galley anchor.
• As a duo that managed to capture the Burning Blade once, you now have to transition to managing basically a galleon. While possible, there is a bit of a disadvantage even with the skeleton crew helping with canons and repairs -- just in managing the sails.

However, I will say there are some cool things that have happened since this event that I would love if Rare could find a way to encourage, or even capitalize on. I've seen more multi-ship battles which make for epic stories. Not to mention the absolute confusion of trying to determine who is crewing the Burning Blade, who has boarded from other ships, while dodging obsidian skeletons is one of a kind.

This leaves me with the following questions?

• Where are commendations for forming alliances to take down a burning blade? Sure, let the crews battle over the sword after the sink, but where are rewards for working with other crews to sink the Burning Blade in the first place, especially when in an alliance and if they are non-reaper emissaries. (Maybe I missed them)
• How about some commendations for killing pirate crews as they try to turn in the Burning Blade to Flameheart? If the goal is to keep Flameheart from gaining power, make it worthwhile to take the battle all the way to Reaper's hideout and into the presence of Flameheart himself. I've seen many crews follow the Blade all the way to Reaper's, only to turn away once it is evident they'll be able to turn it in to Flameheart.
• Why isn't there more of a ceremony for turning in the Burning Blade? Going with the last point, how about being able to interrupt the ceremony -- making it a requirement of the Burning Blade crew to continue to defend until the ceremony is completed.

Anyway, just a few random thoughts. Right now, the verdict is still out on this season for me as I'm still concerned about the overall balance of the game with this new world event. It is evident that it has changed the overall feel of the game -- and I'm not sure I'm in favor of where it is going.

@mich-iel2538 said in Season 13 is one big let down:

@riftenwatcher
I'm pretty sure Mike Chapman said "the year of Flameheart" as in. 'This is the year Flameheart is coming back in S13'. Everyone was expecting a big entrée and we basically just got a "yo guys i guess i'm back lol come find me at reaper's if u want xdd"

I'm sure Flameheart will still play a big part. But i can't wrap my head around the way he's been brought into the game. So underwhelming for such an anticipated and hyped character.

Another way to look at it is that a lot of players are new, especially with PS5 players joining up.

They don't have the history or the nostalgia so they are experiencing a big exciting event and having that fun may attach them more to flameheart lore or lore in general, etc.

It's easy to forget after as many hours that many of us have played but for new players a lot of this stuff is very new and exciting, it's their origin story. It's not a let down to many, it's the exciting start to their pirate's life.

Example,

I'm big into adventure and I've made countless posts in support of organic play and adventuring.

but I started with a lot of arena play. It's what led me to enjoying adventure play more. It was exciting and wild and it got me attached to SoT. An event like this is like that to some newer players. Maybe they get into lore and maybe they don't, maybe they stay in pvp and maybe they don't, but it's a good starting point. Exciting pirate battle. Cool ship, cool character.

Maybe a tall tale is in the works, that would be great.